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Kliman is on his same old rails, not off them. In 2016 he supported voting for Clinton.
The following quote from the CWO ( https://bit.ly/37jcIBT ) on October 2016:
‘All of which demonstrates that a sound analysis of the failings of capitalism is not enough if not accompanied by a defence of revolutionary politics and the recognition that communism is not just a nice version of capitalism but an entirely new mode of production in which the law of value has been abolished […] and society is moneyless. Roberts is not the first economist who has done useful work in defending the Marxist critique of capitalism yet does not link this to a revolutionary political programme. Even today Andrew Kliman has a similar critique of the the system to Roberts and ourselves (using a slightly different calculation) but as a member of the Marxist-Humanist Initiative he is supporting a “lesser evil” vote for Clinton in the US election. The temptation to be drawn onto the agenda set by the bourgeoisie is too great, even for those who should be theoretically armed to oppose it. ‘I hope what I just posted is readable. The spaces I put between paragraphs all vanished. I see no editing function to make use of. (Unlike on the old forum, I think.)
‘ Is this something we should insist on being included in?’
Yes!
By the way, the Northite Trots (WSWS/’Socialist Equality Party’) are standing candidates:
More of the same:
To me, the notion of ‘countries’ exploiting other ‘countries’ through ‘transfer’ of surplus value is the leftist concomitant to the right-wing ‘pro-workerist’ claim (like with Trump) that the working class of country X (say, the US) are ‘exploited’ by country Y (say, China) through ‘unequal’ trading relations.
Can we have an article in the SS — or why not a pamphlet? — dealing with both of these ideologies at the same time? It could be titled ‘Anti-socialist notions of exploitation’, or something catchy like that.
Or has it already been covered? (Where?)
The US satiro-ironist CW Hopkins on the NYT and Hillary’s Clinton’s recent attacks on the anti-warish Democrat presidential candidate T. Gabbard (as a ‘Russian asset’ or the like):
(And just as alanjjohnstone says, the name of this thread should be changed.)
New book by Piketty. Review by Michael Roberts:
‘Labour Party revokes Electronic Intifada journalist’s press pass in bid to suppress left-wing criticism’
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/09/14/wins-s14.html?view=article_mobile
I just noticed that as of today — Mon, 2019-09-02 01:14 and Mon, 2019-09-02 10:15 — there is further back-and-forth between Noa and the CWO.
You might post this, expanding on the last paragraph ( which I assume refers to, or is related, to the tendency-of-the-rate-of-profit-to-fall (TRPF) theory to which the CWO holds) on the libcom page where discussion of it (well, one comment so far, from Spikymike) is underway as of yesterday: https://libcom.org/blog/review-money-totality-fred-moseley-28082019 .
(Might change ‘Martian’ to ‘Marxian’ though!)
The David North Trots on the latest in the Labour Party re Chris Williamson:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/08/20/will-a20.html?view=article_mobile
Regarding ‘reparations to Jewish victims of the Holocaust’ and related matters, Norman Finkelstein’s book ‘The Holocaust Industry’ is very well worth reading. An excellent two-paragraph summary of it:
https://bit.ly/31vvuSF‘India’s Hindu supremacist government abrogates Kashmir’s autonomy’:
‘State Dept updates antisemitism definition to include comparisons of Israel to Nazi Germany’:
State Dept updates antisemitism definition to include comparisons of Israel to Nazi Germany
Relatedly, see the paragraph that begins ‘ Nevertheless, I also write about the situation of Jews ‘ here in this interview with Michael Heinrich about his ongoing biography of Marx:(The first volume, I did not know, has already appeared in English: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39975054-karl-marx-and-the-birth-of-modern-society )
