Young Master Smeet
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So, looking at the RN manifesto, a few points stick out: there’s nothing =in there we haven’t seen from the Tories.
https://rassemblementnational.fr/22-mesures
They want to create citizen initiatives and electoral PR (they have suffered under the French system, but at least they clearly aren’t promising to end democracy).
They seem to want school uniforms and proper discipline.
“Mettre en place le patriotisme économique pour réindustrialiser et produire les richesses en France.”
Sounds like Starmerism.
“Garantir aux paysans des prix respectueux de leur travail et mettre un terme aux marges abusives de la grande distribution.”
Pitching for the peasant vote.
“Favoriser l’accès à la propriété et au logement des Français”
The Tories have done that here, vile racist stuff. Liekwise, they promise an end to immigration and an attack on Islamism.
They seem to have basically become the face of whatever French is for saloon bar bore.
A thing to consider, the now largely defunct republican Party completely dominate the Senate (it is elected by local councils, and the number of conservative rural councils have always predominated against the highly populous Paris and other cities. The next Senate election is 2026, so as RN makes gains in local government, it may increase representation in the Senate, until then, it will be a block on their programme: the question of whether the Gaullist right will capitulate to RN or obstruct will be interesting. The senate is elected by halves, so even in 2026 it’ll be unlikely for RN to make a majority. The big showdown will come in 2027 when Macron’s term is up.
The current betting seems to me to be a minority RN administration, limping on from vote to vote unable to enact its programme. Whether this will galvanise or drain it’s supporters is the big question. But France seems set for paralysis for several years.
First exit poll:
National Rally: 34%
New Popular Front: 28.1%
French President Macron’s centrist Ensemble alliance: 20.3%
Republicans: 10.2%Could be enough for an RN majority….
Lizzie45: when people act, they act consciously: when feudalism was enacted, it was the conscious creation and recreation of systems, procedures and ways of organising that suited the actors involved. When capitalism replaced it, ideologues created descriptions of the entire world and the agents who created capitalism did so in line with a conscious set of ideas (as did those who opposed them): socialism will be the first time that the majority of the population will be capable of being the agents.
Well, there’s conflicting reports he may well still be alive, but we should certainly commission the obituary and have it ready.
Just checked, anyone with more than 12% goes through, but in practice that will be the top three. If RN come first, and Macronists 2nd, I’d expect NPF to split and give some votes to the Macronists. I don’t think the favour would be reciprocated, so NPF will only win seats basically, I suspect, where they already hold them, and where they come first in the first round.
These have undoubtedly been the wildest 72 hours in French politics in my lifetime. Pretty incredible stuff.
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— Arnaud Bertrand (@RnaudBertrand) June 13, 2024
Apparently things are a bit hectic in France, the left have formed a popular front (including the “Socialist” Party), while the republican party has descended into chaos over whether to bloc with the national front, whilst other right wing parties descend into infighting: maybe Macron has wrong footed everyone.
With the French voting system, it means the New Popular Front should make it to the second round (I believe top 3 go through in Parliamentary elections).
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1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.https://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/2024/06/the-far-left-and-2024-general-election.html
This list includes ‘left independents’
Edmund Griffiths has put together this table of left candidates in UK general elections:
https://edmundgriffiths.com/leftge.html
I’ve culled our record our (I can’t get tables to work here, so I’ll have to use an image).
Ed Griffiths has done the work for find the aggregate left (of Labour) votes all the way back to 1841:
https://edmundgriffiths.com/leftge.html
@imposs1904 indeed it is, but, erm, younger. Strange way to see Mrs McCluskey…
Another series:
Edward Woodward, a slightly more right wing dystopia (he’s a people smuggler in the first episode, helping people escape Grim Britain to go to a better life!) The second series ends with a Thatcher-alike leading the liberation against the big state: it was Billed as 1984+6 years…
