Young Master Smeet
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Dear All, drunk on power as I am: I’m closing this thread, it is substantially off topic: General should be used for discussion/topical debates.
The forum scope is:
The SPGB web forums are operated by the Socialist Party of Great Britain (SPGB) and are intended to promote discussion of matters related to the SPGB, the World Socialist Movement, and socialism in general.
Simply posting music videos is not discussion.
I’ve created a new thread in Off Topic, please post any music related links there (unless it is for substantial discussion of the lyrics/context meaning of the song.
This seems to set out the terms of this debate
“James Hansen of Columbia University in the US published a paper with colleagues in November which claims temperatures are set to rise further and faster than the predictions of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). In his view, the 1.5°C target is dead….
“To regain some control over Earth’s rising temperature, Hansen supports accelerating the retirement of fossil fuels, greater cooperation between major polluters that accommodates the needs of the developing world and, controversially, intervening in Earth’s “radiation balance” (the difference between incoming and outgoing light and heat) to cool the planet’s surface.”
Part of the issue, if I understand it correctly, is how much latent warming there is in the system, even if we hit net zero.
The actual article by Mann proposes: “(1) a global increasing price on GHG emissions accompanied by development of abundant, affordable, dispatchable clean energy, (2) East-West cooperation in a way that accommodates developing world needs, and (3) intervention with Earth’s radiation imbalance to phase down today’s massive human-made ‘geo-transformation’ of Earth’s climate. Current political crises present an opportunity for reset, especially if young people can grasp their situation.” (Indeed, he recognises the political nature of the question, but his solution is a party not funded by “special interests”.
This is a useful article: “However it is becoming clear that Israeli military intelligence had collected specific information on how Hamas could invade. Additionally, they had evidence of what assets and techniques Hamas were likely to use, and what Israeli facilities and possessions would be targeted. From, observing rehearsals, they also had information about the level of violence Hamas terrorists were willing to inflict.”
But: “The assessment about Hamas appears to have been dismissed for three key reasons.
“First, a belief that Hamas did not have the capabilities to carry out the attack, nor the intention to do so because it would fall outside of their historic pattern of behaviour.
“Second, these beliefs about Hamas were not thoroughly challenged within Israeli intelligence nor through sharing the assessment with international partners who might have had useful intelligence on this.
Third, Israeli defences, be they deeply buried sensors, walls, or automatically defended sections of the border, were considered to be too strong for Hamas.”
This has fed conspiracy theories that Israel let the attack happen, I think the author of this article is probably closer, that groupthink and over-estimation of their own defences (plus the policy driven need to take troops to the West Bank) are to blame.
The added coincidence of the Nova festival (which added to the overall chaos of the situation) probably aggravated the plan.
But, this also tells us something, even in practical terms, when someone says “what else should Israel do?” well, maybe simply improving it’s intelligence and assessment programme would be a good start, certainly better than destroying all the homes in Gaza.
Of course, another option is Iron Fertilization of the oceans, but that seems likely to be less effective, and runs into a similar problem that despite the nonsense of national ownership of bits of the sea, the oceans are a global commons, and should be managed as such.
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#248906Broad application of rule 4, edited to remove potential identification of private individual not on this forum.
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@Lizzie45
1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.
7. You are free to express your views candidly and forcefully provided you remain civil. Do not use the forums to send abuse, threats, personal insults or attacks, or purposely inflammatory remarks (trolling). Do not respond to such messages.And now we’ve got MMA fighter Conor McGregor claiming he’s thinking of standing for President of Ireland on the basis of his anti-migrant views (he doesn’t have a prayer, but you never know with these things, a man who’s been punched in the head repeatedly makes a great patsy).
I don’t have the means or the time to privately communicate with people. I have three moderating tools: edit (which is problematic, but I have used), bin and unapprove – my inclination is to simply bin pointless, boring or irrelevant posts: I don’t know if the users get any notification if I unapprove.
Rule 12 is clear:
12. Moderators may move, remove, or lock any threads or posts which they deem to be off-topic or in violation of the rules. Because posts and threads can be deleted without advance notice, it is your responsibility to make copies of threads and posts which are important to you.
The mod log is an attempt to be transparent without being intrusive and to avoid moderation becoming the sole endless topic of debate.
About 80 leaflets given out to a similar size (maybe 500 at a stretch) demo in Camden: rally outside the townhall, on speaker called for a campaign to unseat Starmer (which would be funny). Had a wee chat with an American from Revleft, who, although their position is similar (get rid of capitalism) thought our leaflet was a bit even handed. Also had a chat with a lady who seemed to remember an Iranian member of ours who did catering at conference, before my time(?)
Also had a few people who’d never heard of us, and thought we were a new party…
@james19 – could you describe the content of the things you link to, just to establish relevance and to give people confidence as to what they’re clicking into?
Forums › General discussion › “Revolutionary Communist Party” name to be revived
#248781From @Almamater asking about previous message I’d binned (#248759) as above – it was off topic to the thread.
A general point, I don’t intend to keep a running commentary going of moderation. If you see a post of yours has disappeared, check the mod log: I try not to name names, but a good clue will be if I say I’ve binned something from a thread. I will only name names if I think someone needs to be alerted to their repeat behaviour.
Forums › General discussion › “Revolutionary Communist Party” name to be revived
#248790Boring pointless post by @Lizzie45 removed
Forums › World Socialist Movement › Gaza War leaflet
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Boring post by @Lizzie45 removed under rule 6.#248793
Removed as a reply to the above.
