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‘All this media attention. Yet the Iraq war barely got a mention, least of all the 1m dead’
James19 – yes and the utter hypocrisy of the Haig embarking immediately on an investigation of ‘crimes against humanity’ in the Ukraine war. Apparently the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis doesn’t count as a war crime and the oligarchs Blair and Bush can rest easy in their dachas.
WezParticipant‘Where do the capitalists find these second-raters to look after their political affairs?’
I’d be interested to know who ALB considers as a ‘first rate’ statesman or woman? I’m sure you’re correct that there has been a drop in quality of these careerist lickspittles of the parasite class but who do you consider the best of a rotten bunch?
WezParticipant‘But WHY do states such as Germany and France go along with it? They must be afraid of Washington, since they are opposing their own capitalist interests.’
As we keep trying to explain to you – the ruling classes of any nation state, such as Germany & France, are not one homogeneous group with identical economic interests. Capital is global so the interests of one capitalist is not identical with that of another. This has to be balanced with the necessity of preserving the illusion of ‘National interests’ for the working class so dividing them against each other politically.
WezParticipant‘What’s wrong with appeasement? Surely, the socialist movement being so small and ineffective, this is the best outcome we can expect under capitalism? Anything but war. Better anything than the shedding of a single drop of working class blood.’
Exactly – who cares which parasitic class claims to own which patch of mud?
WezParticipant‘Why do people find it easier to conceive of the end of the world than of the end of capitalism,’
ALB – One of the reasons maybe the continuous repetitive narratives in our culture that problems can be resolved by violence. Revenge on and/or the extermination of the ‘bad guys’ in so many movies, graphic novels, TV dramas and versions of history all insist that violence (war) is the only solution. In some versions it is the planet itself that takes revenge on our species – something many environmentalists seem to look forward to but, of course, they will be the first to complain if it becomes a reality just as those who advocate war will not be the first to join up to kill or die.
WezParticipantALB says: ‘the various members of a national capitalist class are not a monolithic bloc with a common interest on day-to-day issues.’
then goes on to say: ‘… considering Ukraine joining NATO to be a threat to the overall interest of Russian capitalism.’
So who decides national policy if the interests of the ruling class are fractured? It seems to me that the ideology of national interests is anachronistic for both the ruling and working classes. I do not like the rhetoric of Russia does that or China thinks this etc. which I believe to be very tabloid and just BS. Socialists should not be part of this ideological debate and should rather expose it for what it is – meaningless tribal atavistic nonsense.WezParticipantI’m always rather uncertain by what is meant by ‘Russian’ or ‘Chinese’ interests or any other nation state for that matter. Presumably we’re talking about ruling classes here. But in these days of global capitalism surely the 1% have investments in many multinational companies so what defines their ‘national interests’? Isn’t Putin’s egotism a factor? Do the international bourgeoisie still identify with the one nation state within which they were born?
WezParticipantOf course, from the ruling class point of view, socialism is ‘evil’ since it would destroy their wealth and power.
WezParticipant‘I see no problem for the lay-out team to select suitably sized images that are not too small, nor too big, but as Goldilocks said, just right.’
So says someone who is obviously ignorant of graphic design. It can literally sometimes take many hours to find an uncopyrighted suitable image. That together with the variable quality of images (if you can find a suitable one) makes the process incredibly tortuous on occasion.
WezParticipantI hope the above isn’t directed at BD’s last post as I found it very amusing. We need more humour in the ‘Party’.
WezParticipantMy point is that an ‘individual’ is a social construct. Everything we think we are and even the language and ideas we use is a product of social history. A human individual is impossible without society – I always find that rather dialectically liberating.
WezParticipantSociety is not made up of individuals – individuals are made by society.
WezParticipantIt was unfortunate that my last cover design would be (justly) criticized but it was rather inevitable since the editors changed their minds about what it should feature at the last minute and I had no time to contemplate the design. I checked with them as to the Chinese character to be used and was given the go-ahead. I’m now retired from designing the Standard and have mainly enjoyed working with comrades to the best of my abilities. For many months I was alone in designing it which led to somewhat of a ‘burn-out’ and this together with Covid and the debate about payment the whole process became rather strange. I wish the best of luck to my replacement and now I can return to writing for our beloved journal.
WezParticipantI take the warning above and this will be my final feed for the Bird. As usual he deliberately misunderstands me. As even he must know Marx regarded socialist consciousness as the FIRST time in history where we are aware of material reality in terms of the evolution of the economics of private property and that this is what will enable us to change social relations rather than the evolution of economic relations that have changed us! At the moment the laws of capitalism are independent of the wishes and intentions of governments etc. because they have no understanding of the materialist reality of their own economic system and the need to replace it.
WezParticipantIt doesn’t surprise me that LBird rejects Marx’s LTV along with his theory of historical evolution – one wonders by what perverse stretch of his wild imaginings he believes himself to be a Marxist since he rejects all of his discoveries. Just as the laws of nature are not affected by the beliefs and needs of humanity so are the laws of capitalist economics – they are independent of the desires of governments and other groups. That’s why it’s called ‘the materialist conception of history’.
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