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This is not a thread on vegetarianism or on food at all. It’s about the holocaust being perpetrated on wildlife by the capitalist system.
Chelmsford begins with “my modest contribution to the holocaust …”
Get your own threads on anti-vegetarianism and on recipes if that’s what you want. This is a thread on a very serious subject and your Christmas dinner ideas have nothing to do with it, and diminish it.
And I remember you before, diminishing my descriptions of horrendous animal suffering with some remark like, “Aw, the fluffy wuffie bunnies” etc. That was a diminishing remark aimed at hurting, and it’s no wonder I assume these ones are too … especially as they don’t belong here.
I’ve had years, both from socialists, anarchists and others, of remarks aimed at hurting the feelings of people of sensibility beyond their own species. I’ve had enough of it.If to had a choice to vote for the abolition of meat eating or socialism which would you chose?
vincentMParticipantSpeak later m8
vincentMParticipantTo old for gigging but good to hear from you ok cde
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vincentMParticipantHope you are keeping well M8
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vincentMParticipantI, Y I man.
vincentMParticipantYou can checkout any time you like but you can never leave.
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vincentMParticipantWhat a commotion. A member was not aware that Corbyn had expressed the view that the class struggle as defined by the SPGB was more important to workers than Brexit.
That is all!
Can we leave it at that?
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vincentMParticipantFair comment Alan but you appear to be suggesting that only SPGBr’s are class conscious. I very much disagree with this part:
“The Socialist Party is the party of committed class-conscious socialists and its small membership merely reflects the small number of class-conscious socialists.”
I know many class conscious workers outside of the SPGB
vincentMParticipantAlan said
“Robbo’s comments were an opportunity for you to respond with reasoned arguments against his observations, even though you consider these to be ad hominem attacks.”
No they weren’t. his comment were full of strawmen that I have no intention of knocking down.
Is it not possible to discuss Labour, Corbyn and the SPGB’s policy without talking about me? Why drag personal issues into a debate unless your argument is bankrupt? I’m afraid you are not being neutral here, Alan. Think about it?
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vincentMParticipant“I recognized this as VM’s humour, Robbo which you should have done.
I don’t think Robbo did launch a personal attack towards you but expressed an interpretation of your post, VM, and where he believes it is leading to.”
Me leaving the party has nothing to do with the subject under discussion. He turned it personal because he had no reply or if he did have a reply he preferred keeping to himself. I liked Robin but now I see him as the usual sectarian playing to the crown (allbeit a tiny one)
Robbo said
“It saddens me that you seem to have drifted away from socialism into Labourite reformism and making common cause with Corbyn fan club. Since when did socialists put their trust in, or hero worship, leaders?
As for saying “The SPGB is small because it is hostile to workers and their attempts to feed and house themselves” – come on now, even you must recognise this for the bollocks that it is.
You have allowed the “red mist” that has descended upon you ever since you left the Party to distort your perception . I hope one day that mist will lift and you might once again become a comrade in the cause for socialism”
This has nothing to do with the subject under discussion. If you do not recognise that as ‘turning it personal’ then the sectarian mist is blinding you also.
I will leave this discussion to avoid more hateful attacks and assume there is no reply to my substantive comment
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