TrueScotsman
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“Are you claiming that an assault to capture a town that began almost six months ago, can be considered a success?”
Yes, that’s exactly what I’m claimimg. Bakhmut is key to the Ukrainian defence and logistical networks in Donbass. Its capture will lead to the collapse of Ukraine’s ability to continue its resistance in east Ukraine. Moreover, the Nazis in Kiev have fed most of their best troops into the battle there allowing Russia to proceed with its main mission of de-Nazifying and demilitarisaing Ukraine.
“I’ve seen Elvis impersonators in Benidorm that have more credibility than you”
Let me remind our resident pedant that my prediction was made in response to another on this thread. That being that the battle in Bakhmut may settle in to an Ypres style stalemate. Well, the Ukrainians in the town are almost encircled. All roads have now been cut and access is only available over fields. The Russians have reached the centre of town. I guess we’ll see very shortly who is more credible, won’t we?
“His Co- Leader and one of the founders of the Wagner Group is Alexey Milchakov”
Erm, he’s neither of those things. I suggest you check your sources.
“TW stated on 15 Feb (post number 240410)
“Bhakmut is mere days if not hours away from falling.”Looks like his racing tips are about as dodgy as Scott Ritter”
Lol. I wrote that what, three days ago? I don’t think that qualifies my prediction as out of date quite yet.
“I was thinking more about the Wagner Group’s leader professing his Neo Nazi views (as shown by him repeating them on the youtube video I linked to you).”
I don’t see how that is possible given that Prigozhin is their leader.
“Can you recall his source for this figure or the methodology he used to calculate it if it is derived from his own studies?”
I don’t watch every one of his videos. He really gets in to the weeds of mathmatics and theory in many of his presentations. Much if it over my head. I simply trust he knows what he’s talking about given his expertise, connections and sound analysis.
“What is his figure for the Russian dead and wounded?”
Very low. He talks of a 15:1 casualty ratio at this stage in the war.
“So still no comment on Wagner?”
Prigozhin is likely exaggerating. His troops are very well armed and supplied. More likely he personally has received a slap on the snout for too much showboating.
“That’s not how this works: you can provide timestamped links to Youtube, if you were confident in your sources.”
Actually this is how it works because my time is valuable to me and I’m not interested in dragging suicidal horses to watering holes. So let’s compromise. Next time I watch one of his videos and he mentions Ukrainian deaths I’ll provide a link. BTW, the figure he states is 250k.
“TS, can you offer BD the appropriate link”
Martyanov regularly gives figures during his YouTube updates. I’m not going to re-watch a bunch if his videos to find the figure for you lot just to say what a load of crap it is. He can watch the videos himself and hear the figures from the horse’s mouth or just take my word for it.
“So your figures are based on the work of a Russian living in the US. So, just like you, his figures (if they concur with you, and I can’t see anywhere on line actually stating a figure of deaths of Ukrainian troops on any line article, although I am happy to be directed to them) are effectively based on conjecture, rather than direct evidence.”
Martyanov spent most of his adult life in both the Soviet and RF military. He has written numbers of books on military theory and has forgotten more about war than the two of us could know in three lifetimes. You don’t think he has any reliable military sources back in his home country? So no, he is not merely basing his numbers on conjecture.
“Having read your comments over some time I have noticed that the more you find it a struggle to support your arguments effectively, the more you resort to insult.”
What, need to go lie down on the fainting couch for some pearl clutching do you? Feeling a bit fragile? Lol. I insult people who insult me first. You wanna change tone? Call each other by our thread names and be civil? Well, I’ve already tried that a number of times and then immediately get insulted again. So lead by example Bojo.
“I am inferring (note the correct use of the word) from your recent post that you must be really struggling to justify your patently ridiculous exaggeration of the Ukrainian death toll.”
Not struggling at all. A high death count is what happens when you start running out of shells in a toe to toe artillery war with the world’s largest and most sophisticated ground army. The fact you’re surprised that horrendous casualties are the inevitable result confirms there ain’t much rattling aroun upstairs.
“Your frankly gruesome and blood thirsty glorification of the deaths of fellow workers on both sides of this grubby capitalist dispute does you no favours”
Fighting Nazis is glorious work. Nazi “workers” are still Nazis. The lowest form of life. They’d happily put a bullet in the back of your head what with you being a professed “socialist”. Obviously, you’re not a socialist but you’re too dumb to figure that out and so are Nazis so bullet it would be. Lol
“According to TW – The Ukrainian Forces are on their last legs, and that they have had 200,000 deaths and very few survivable casualties” but on the other hand they’ve a troop strength of over 1,000,000 troops. (So presumably that makes 800,000 troops available).
Erm, both can be true at the same time. I fail to see a contradiction. Though I never said very few survivable casualties just much higher than would ordinarily be expected. Ukraine has a lot of men in uniform and is sustaining heavy casualties.
Clearly you’re not called Bojo’s half a brain for nothing.“On the one hand the Ukrainians overinflated their troop numbers”
I’ve never made this claim. That was your claim. Clearly you’re not Bojo’s half brain for nothing!
“and are unreliable but on the other their troop numbers are greater than the ones that the Ukrainian’s have announced.”
Lol, I quoted directly from the Ukrainian side. Go back and look sunshine. You lost another half of you brain Bojo? There musn’t be much left. Serious question. You have a learning disability?
“On the one hand sources such as the Russian Ministry of Defence and the Moon of Alabama are the source of reliable data, yet his estimates of Ukrainian deaths are much greater than the ones provided by his never revealed “sources” which are reliable and correct.”
I don’t even understand that attempt at a sentence. You’ve never asked for my source on casualties. It’s Andrei Martyanov.
“It looks like TW doesn’t know whether he’s batting or whether he’s fielding”
Bojo, go play with the other children, preferably on the road. The adults are talking.
“British Prime Minister Sunak said in Munich that London would be the first to supply Kiev with “long-range weapons.”
Turning to the European countries, Sunak urged not to consider the depletion of their arsenals as a problem, because, in his opinion, they were intended to fight the Russian Federation.”
“Is that the sounds of straws being clutched at???”
Lol. So Kiev hasn’t stopped all males 18-60 from leaving the country?
It doesn’t have a volkssturm?
It isn’t dragging men off the street to fight?
The only one clutching at straws is you. I might add the figure of a million is over 6 months old. How many more men have the Kiev Nazis pressed in to service since?
