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“There were about 80,000 foreign students studying in Ukraine at the time of the invasion, many from Africa and Asia…Why did they not travel to Russia?”
So you expect that they should head toward battle lines to continue their studies? Lol.
At any rate, the students would have been treated much better if they had chosen to enter Russia. Nazis aren’t very kind to those with considerable melanin.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/28/europe/students-allege-racism-ukraine-cmd-intl/index.html
“Yes, the only use for TrueStalinist”
Alan, my screen name is being punned with. Now, I don’t mind as I’m very happy to play that game but you’ve stated very clearly it’s against the rules. So, what’s it going to be?
“Of course we are not taken in by either side”
Erm, I call “bullshit”. You are the most credulous bunch of media consumers I’ve ever met. Guardian Bros of the world, unite!
“As far as I’m aware there are no independent journalists covering the conflict.”
Oh Weazel, wrong as always. Patrick Lancaster is independent, Eva Bartlett is independent, John Mark Dougan is independent, Graham Phillips is independent, Alina Lipp is independent and there are plenty of others. You’re like a 5 year old who thinks if they close their eyes the world blinks out of existence. Just because you don’t know of something Weazel, doesn’t mean it ain’t so. Lol
(Weazel as in “weasel words”, I don’t wish to cause any offence to weasels.)
“The Moon of Alabama uses The Guardian as one of its new sources, and they use Bloomberg, Fox, The New York Times, the Washington Post, ICH which is a conspiracy news center, and others capitalists media”
And how does he use those sources? To ridicule them or does he take them seriously? That is the question. My guess, mostly the former.
“I wonder if Elon Musk the richest man in the world can be described as one of the elite and was not his call for peace talks with actual concrete proposals an example of the Ukraine Fatigue.”
The political elite.
“The USA can as easily withdraw support as they did to their allies in Afghanistan and the Kurds in Syria. Loyalty is not a virtue for US president.”
No, they can’t because a loss is a loss for NATO and would probably lead to the disintegration of the organisation which Washington will not allow.
I said the elites were unfatigued, the public was another matter.
The 5 Star movement received just 15% of the vote in the last election and does not rule the country.
“US officials have requested that Kyiv signal its openness to negotiate NOT to push Ukraine towards the negotiating table immediately”
Still a lie. They’re not interested in EVER pushing Ukraine to negotiate. They want this war to go on forever.
“The ulterior motive is fully explained and MofA concerns that it is a PR exercise are reflected in the article”
Where?
“The point of my message was to confirm ALB’s earlier posts that there will come a point that Ukraine’s allies will place their own national interests before continued support of Ukraine.”
No, there won’t. NATO sees this conflict as existential. It is not willing to back down under any cirumstances. The US/EU ruling classes support the miltary effort 1000%. The ordinary person on the street? Well that’s another question.
“The US advice suggests that some countries are already experiencing “Ukraine Fatigue” and require reassurance that peace talks will take place and the war will end soon.”
No, the public is feeling the “fatigue” not the elite.
“As for MofA accompanying military analysis, I simply cannot comment. I will await the outcome of the Russian offensive you expect to happen and whether it is a swift victory that you fully anticipate or becomes another stalemate phase of a long war which is also a reasonable prognosis.”
No, a stalemate is not a reasonable prognosis if one actually understands the disposition of forces and their compliment of equipment.
“Once more, the SPGB is for the end of hostilities under any conditions whether detrimental to Ukraine. Losing territory is a price worth paying for peace.”
Washington rules Ukraine not Kiev. There will not be peace until Russia comprehensively defeats the Urainian proxy on the battlefield.
“And Russia can live with neighbouring nations being NATO members as it has already demonstrated. Or do you expect an invasion of Finland when its membership of NATO is formalised?”
If Finland allows NATO bases and missile silos Russia will invade.
“For the de-Nazification I think the war has been counter-productive and deepened the right-wing influences and strengthened the Russophobe prejudices.”
You’re calling the game at the third quarter. The match ain’t over yet.
“The Shock and Awe invasion failed.”
Russia didn’t implement a shock and awe strategy until now. It is working. Almost all of Ukraine is in the dark. The train system cannot run which will cripple Ukraine’s ability to transport and resupply its troops.
“A quick victory was not accomplished and the Kiev government stayed intact.”
Actually it almost did succeed but negotiations were scuttled by NATOstan.
“If it now negotiates, it will not be because Russia forced it to compromise and make concessions but as the article implies, because those presently supporting Ukraine are pressing for it.”
Or Ukraine suffers a total military defeat.
“And the US and the UK are aware that commitment to Ukraine is waning.”
Except that it isn’t.
How many times must I tell you Alan?! The Guardian isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. The talk of pushing for Zelensky to negotiate is a sham.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/ukraine-us-deceives-allies-to-keep-them-in-line.html#more
“No it was betrayed.’
TS – By whom?”By the Soviet leaders who rejected the result of the referendum and dissolved the USSR anyway. President Boris Yeltsin of Russia, President Kravchuk of Ukraine, and Chairman Shushkevich of Belarus. Mikhail Gorbachev must also take s great deal of the blame.
“I accept Crimea had more affinity with Russia but it cannot be overlooked that Russian troops took possession of Crimea in breach of international law.”
Lol. Russian troops were already in Crimea as per the agreement to lease the naval base at Sevastopol.
“The Russian people overwhelmingly ditched Bolshevism:
Lol, 60+ and yet so ignorant?Actually, the exact opposite is true. The Russian people overwhelmingly supported Bolshevism. Of the 300 million people living in the USSR about 150 million people participated in the 1991 referendum asking whether or not to maintain the Union. 76% voted in favor of its preservation. That’s overwhelming Wez. Hope you choke on your apology for being so damn wrong.
“it’s time TS did as well – it was an historical dead-end.”
No it was betrayed.
“Incidentally in all my 60+ years I can truly say that I have never read the Guardian.”
Lol. Fine, you’re just Guardian adjacent.
Michael Hudson explains the monumental shift that is taking place geo-politically. He’s a Marxist so I’m sure you all hate him.
https://thesaker.is/germanys-position-in-americas-new-world-order/
” you are going to fall for that one, you really are in trouble.”
Russia stands for the rule of international law through the United Nations. The US/NATOstan stands for the “rules based international order”, ie US global hegemony. The difference is profound. Smooth brained Guardian bros are such dupes they can’t see the forest for the trees.
