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“I’m guessing you mean Aquarian”
Hehe, thank you Lizzie but it was a joke. When at a circus it’s hard not to act the clown.
“The whole nature and presentation of Narcissistic Personality Disorder is based on denial of intrapersonal reality.”
Bojo’s Brain, back to the pages of Tween Vogue are we? While you’re at it, what’s my
Horoscope have to say today? I’m an Aquarium. Lol“Oh, you mean the 150,000 phantom combat-ready army”
Lol, I guess if the Guardian doesn’t see a tree fall in the woods it makes no sound!
I don’t know, maybe the army that your very own source of news the Donbass Whatever was reporting on. The army
Ukraine said it was raising using Minsk as a smokescreen to take back Donbass and Crimea as multiple Kiev politicians had declared. An army that had been violating the ceasefire agreement incessantly as reported by the OSCE. All-in with the Guardian is also a flea-bitten running dog chasing forever his mangey tail.“that was poised to invade the separatist republics that had miraculously vanished on February 24th when the Russians made their advance.”
Lol, the Ukrainians are still dug in across Donbass.
“And the Russians didn’t seem to be too concerned by such a huge concentration of Ukrainian troops since its main thrust was from Belarus.”
Except that wasn’t the main thrust. Russia attacked from multiple directions.
“But I am no tactician so there might be a good military reason that this 150,000 army was not confronted from the Republics or why it was not re-deployed by Ukraine to defend Mariupol.”
The Russians attacked on multiple fronts. The Ukrainians started the conflict with about 300,000 troops to Russia’s 150,000.
“But apologies if I misunderstood your “case” to be that the secessionist war had been an on-going one since 2014 via artillery barrages against the separatists that the OSCE monitored regularly. After all, from an earlier message by you, sporadic skirmishes doesn’t meet your definition of war, does it?”
The war reached a stalemate quite quickly then became a frozen conflict under Minsk. The Ukrainians used the agreement as a smokescreen to rebuild their shattered army. With everything in place they had their invasion ready for the beginning of March this year. The preliminary artillery barrages had already begun. At that point Russia intervened. As with Robotomy, I have explained this to you numerous times. I will not do so again.
Robotomy you are talking in circles now. A running dog chasing its flea-bitten tail. I’ve addressed every one of your claims a half dozen times. (Yawn.)
“The worst thing that ever happened to socialism was the existence of the Soviet Union”
Lol, says the socialist poser who does nothing to advance the cause but spew nonsense on the internet all day.
“But your whole case was that since 2014 Ukraine was at war with the separatists and you cite the artillery shelling.”
That’s never been my “case”. The conflict in the east included numerous pitched battles. Russia’s intervention was provoked by an imminent invasion of the Donbass by 150,000 Ukrainian troops.
“A bad Nazi is one that is pro-Ukrainian. A good Nazi is one that is pro-Russian.”
Don’t put words in my mouth All-in with the CIA.
“The European countries that were part of the Soviet empire almost immediately revealed, after 1989, that they have the most neo-Nazis and are more nationalistic than the rest of Europe.”
And they were like that preceding WW2. For the Soviet Union these countries were a burden not booty. The Soviet Union was the best thing that could’ve happened to them.
“The hatred for Russia is stronger there than anywhere else.”
Not because of anything Russia did. The Soviet Union massively improved the quality of life of those it ruled.
“Is your reference confirming or refuting what I said?”
The war lasted a month. Intermittent skirmishing is not war.
“In relation to the conflict which do you sympathise with? Russia in support of Vietnam or China in support of Khymer Rouge.”
I haven’t studied the period in detail enough to form an opinion.
“Two actually existing socialist countries, both expressing imperialistic policies and you don’t recognise the paradox…”
Neither countries were or are imperialist so I reject the framing of your question.
“Without understanding the full ramifications of his own logic, TS is advocating a genocidal war.”
Lol, find me a definition of genocide that includes the killing of enemy combatants.
“He does not differentiate between nationalists and Nazis (as seen by his failure to comprehend my earlier statement, “The vast majority of the Ukrainian military are not in politically extremist regiments””
If you are an armed combatant in an armed conflict you are a legitimate target. End of story.
“What is the Azov Battalion. War always needs it villains
Ukraine’s Azov Battalion: Neo-Nazis or Russian Propaganda?
A study of the Ukrainian Far-right”
Lol, I have to call you All-in with the Nazis now? All-in with whitewashing Ukrainian neo-Nazism.
“Pro-Putin Nazis
Lol, the Conversation. Yet another imperialist rag. Do better All-in with the Nazis.
“Can Russia win decisively? Who knows?”
I know.
“But if they do it could come at an immense cost in their own lives as much as Ukrainian ones.”
Russians are killing Ukrainians 8 to 1. The immense cost is on Ukraine’s side not Russia’s. Russia is only growing in strength thanks to this conflict as I’ve explained earlier.
“In an all-out offensive to occupy Ukraine, has TS considered that Russian cities can become a target? Tit-for-Tat.”
Lol,they already are targets. Donbas is Russia now.
“Long-range missiles are being provided to Ukraine by its allies on the strict stipulation that they are not used against Russia itself, only on the occupying attacking army. I have no idea what happens if that condition is lifted and those engaged in a proxy war supply more missiles capable of hitting Russian cities”
You’ve no idea? Then let me help you. Russia destroys them in the air or on the ground along with their crews. Problem solved. Then US troops would probably be targeted somewhere, perhaps Syria, and we can have WW3.
“The US easily accomplished the defeat of the Iraqi army but occupying the country and subduing an unwilling population was a very different matter.”
Apples and oranges. Russians and Ukrainians are brother Slavs, speak the same language and have a similar culture. Once Russia has evicted the Nazis from Kiev it will leave. Your analogy is stupid.
““It lasted just over a month.”
Factcheck”
Lol, CIApedia.
“The conflict lasted for nearly a month, from February 17 to March 1979.”
https://www.thevietnamese.org/2022/02/february-17-1979-the-start-of-the-sino-vietnamese-border-war/
“No doubt to protect your ignorance you will claim it is all CIA-WIKI imagination.”
CIApedia is not a reliable source. I’ve provided mountains of evidence to support this conclusion. You have refuted none of it. The only one of us protecting their ignorance is you.
“Regards the Kymer Rouge, China aligned itself with the US and UK in support the Kymer Rouge.
Who Supported the Khmer Rouge?”
You’ve just explained who.
“It is a very confusing period for someone who claims to be both pro-Soviet and pro-Chinese to witness the rivalry between them and the tensions that existed that often neared open war”
What’s your point?
“particularly since it involved China collaborating with the USA against the USSR.”
If Stalin had remained alive perhaps such a deterioration in relations could’ve been avoided. We’ll never know.
“Now our True Stalinist”
Robotomy, you know calling me a Stalinist isn’t insulting, right? It’s a badge of honor.
“is beginning to inadvertently reveal the real capitalist motivations behind his master’s imperialistic ambitions”
Erm no, correlation is not causation. The Soviet Union also grew after WW2, but, like with Russia today, it was a conflict forced upon it by others. Putin didn’t want this conflict and did everything possible to avoid it. The people of the territories taken quite rightly didn’t want to be ruled by Nazis. They wanted, instead, to join Russia and voted to do so.
“– it is about gaining “huge swathes of territory and the resources and populations therein”.”
Correlation is not causation. If the Russian speaking population inhabited barren, worthless desert the result would be the same.
“So all that talk about wanting to “de-nazify” Ukraine was a load of bollocks.”
It’s never only been about de-nazification. It’s also about demilitarization, ending Kiev’s vicious slaughter of the people of Donbas and security agreements guaranteeing no NATOstani (US) infrastructure on Russia’s border.
“Just so much hot air that gullible fools can faithfully regurgitate on demand.”
Lol, says the Guardian Brah. Priceless.
““It must be true cos Putin said it” LOL.”
Putin tells the truth far more often than any NATOstani leader, that’s for sure.
“Putin has no problem with the idea of some autocratic rightwing corrupt regime existing on his doorstep.”
He was able to tolerate that very thing until the Nazis in Kiev determined to resolve their conflict in the east using military violence. Kiev, and its NATO handlers are solely responsible for what followed.
“After all, he heads one himself.”
Putin is not an autocrat, he’s elected. If he was unpopular he’d be voted out of office. The Russian people don’t do so because he enjoys huge popular support. Under his leadership the looting of Russia was halted and its sovereignty restored.
“I still want to know from TS, however, how he imagines you can possibly hope to “de-nazify” a country – assuming Ukraine was a Nazi country – by firing missiles at it and whipping up its citizens into a state of reactionary ultra-nationalism in defense of their so-called homeland”
What happened in Nazi Germany? And Russia is going softer on Ukraine than the Soviets ever did on Germany. Soon the Ukrainians will be militarily exhausted. 370,000 Russian reserves are about to join the fight. If the megalomaniacs in NATOstan have any humanity they’ll allow Kiev to sue for peace. But that’s a big “if”.
“Mr Putin is the best recruiting sergeant for the cause of the small Ukrainian Nazi movement they could ever have hoped for.”
That’s perfectly OK. As a result more Nazis will die. It’s a win-win.
“And WW2 was settled by the Nazis being forced into Unconditional Surrender”
And Ukraine will be forced into unconditional surrender.
“that looks highly unlikely in the Ukraine – Russia war”
Erm no, it is almost certain to happen. The only thing that could forestall such an outcome is direct NATO intervention. And then that probably means WW3.
“(apart that is from your “call of duty” based fantasy world)”
Actually, it’s a very commonly held view, just not by Guardian Brahs.
“If there is one thing that is almost designed to drive the non-Nazi majority of Ukrainians into the hands of the Nazi minority that is Putin’s stupid senseless blunder to invade Ukraine.”
It was not at all senseless. The war Ukraine started was senseless. Russia is only finishing what Ukraine started.
“You don’t “de-nazify” by terrorizing a population and bombing their homes.”
Actually, if Nazis are using those homes as firing positions, then that’s exactly what you do.
“All that does is whip up reactionary Ukrainianian ultra-nationalism and thereby render them more susceptible to Nazi influence”
And remind me how losing WW2 influenced even more Germans into embracing Nazi ideology? Oh that’s right, it didn’t.
