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“Hey TN – Russia is offering their troops new incentives, free sperm bank storage, allowing them to have children if they are killed or maimed during the “Special Military Operation (now described as a war by Mr V Putin esq).”
Described as a war now, is it? I missed the memo. You have a copy?
“We’re all aware of your blood curdling support for all things Putin”
I don’t even know what that means. All I care about is the truth supported by evidence.
“knows no bounds (apart from actually joining in with the bloodletting by actually offering your military services to mother Russia).”
I also support space research but have no plans to be an astronaut.
“Perhaps this offer might be the one that makes you finally shows us skeptics that you aren’t the hypocritical BS merchant we all judge you as”
Run along and play child, the adults are talking. The juveniles have their own special table where you’ll be quite welcome.
“although I can understand the offer of sperm donation is not for you, perhaps your hands are a bit full at the moment?”
Your sexual peccadillos are of no concern to me. Perhaps keep them private, eh?
“Meanwhile to relish in the thought of fellow workers being reduced to “fertilizer” is frankly sick. This is the language of those who wished for the “final solution” in Nazi Germany. Disgusting.”
Right, cos killing Nazi stormtroopers is actually the moral equivalent of killing Jewish civilians. Lol
“Will such counter-violence get the Israelis to negotiate?
I don’t believe so. And we have decades of previous armed struggles to base that view on.”
The Palestinians have a access to technology their forebears did not. Technologies which can somewhat even the battlefield. i.e. drones and guided missiles.
“The Lions Den is the latest and an expression of the frustration the Palestinians feel at the lack of any political progress.”
Indeed.
“Negotiations mean compromise and concessions on both sides.”
They do. But the Zionazis aren’t willing to make any so they’ll have to be forced.
“What have the Palestinians got to bring to the table that Jewish-Israelis are interested in?”
An end to the violence.
“Urban guerrilla warfare?”
Yes.
“For many Zionists this is exactly what they hope for,”
Yes, and now they shall have it.
“to acquire Israeli popular support to permit pogroms against the relatively defenceless Palestinian population.”
That is the present policy. You speak as though it was a mere consideration.
“What has Israel to gain from talks? Absolutely nothing.”
An end to the violence.
“They have no need for talks as they hold overwhelming dominance.”
Clearly, they don’t as the existence of the Lion’s Den attests.
“They have a docile Palestinian-Israeli population inside Israel”
That started to change a while ago.
“a subdued West Bank run by the collaborationist and corrupt PA”
No disagreement from me there. Though the PA has lost all legitimacy among the population.
“and in Gaza a Hamas administration dependant upon the patronage of Qatar to function.”
But still embrace armed struggle.
“The US the only country with a degree of influence will not pressure Israel to reach any agreement with the Palestinians.”
For the time being but the American hegemon is being forced from its perch.
“As I said previously, all this is basically cost-free to Israel.”
Which is why violence is the only remaining option.
“The ordinary Jewish-Israeli is as unaffected by the situation as the ordinary Russian citizen is by the Ukraine war.”
Drones and missiles can change that.
“There can be no victory for the Palestinians when the existing status quo works so well for Israel.”
Which is why violence.
“Armed struggle isn’t going to work.”
Except when it does.
“BDS is toothless unless nations enforce real sanctions”
True.
“which they won’t. Migrant labour means the Israel economy isn’t as reliant on Palestinian labour as it once was.”
If you say so.
“Will things change? First there needs to be a shift in consciousness and that isn’t happening.”
That’s what violence is for.
“Opinion polls show the attitudes of both sides growing increasingly polarised.”
One side is genociding the other, so yeah.
But it’s the Russians that are the bad guys…
“Most military thinktanks are right-wing in ideology.”
Lol. It’s not a “military” think tank. It’s a neo-con think tank with a proven track record of telling outright lies.
“The point being made, though, was that your own prediction that Bakhmut was about to fall did not materialise”
You’re so impatient. Unlike you, the Russians are in no hurry. Their aim is to demilitarize Ukraine. To grind their troops to fertilizer. The Ukrainians are obliging by sending more and more reserves into the meatgrinder. The Russians have 6-10 times the artillery fire the Ukrainians do. The maths doesn’t lie. The Ukrainian troops there are toast. Meanwile, the Ukrainians are building trench works in the centre of Bakhmut. That’s not what you do when you’re winning.
This battle will soon be over, the Russians victorious. You’ll declare it a Pyrrhic victory of no consequence and whatever other empire spin is given to explain away the Ukrainian defeat. This cycle will rinse and repeat til Ukraine surrenders.
“The latest analysis by the Institute for the Study of War”
Lol, the “Institute for the study of war” is a notorious neo-con think tank. It made up the lie that Iraq had WMDs. If you read any of its analysis you know less than when you started. Classic All-in with the deep state.
Apartheid Israel only understands violence. Palestinians know this.
Lions’ Den is Not a Fleeting Phenomenon: On Palestine’s Looming Armed Revolt
“This Nazi narrative: where did you first hear it?”
Perhaps the BBC. You?
“Are you spreading a little of it too! MH Flight, the Russians who shot a civil plane”
Actually, the allegation is that eastern-Ukrainians shot down the plane in their battle with Nazi coup regime forces.
“The Putin capitalist regime’s support for Far-right and even fascist political organisations”
Fake news.
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“This idiot”
What’s the difference between an “idiot” and a [DELETED – WORDS MEANINGS CHANGE WITH TIME]? Both were medical descriptions at one point in time. And both are colloquialisms for poor thinking skills. Well, if Lobotomy can freely call me an idiot, I think I’m justified in calling him a [DELETED].
“thinks the way forward is for Palestinian workers to equip themselves with drones and take on the most powerful military force in that part of the world”
So, the [DELETED] thinks I am suggesting the Palestinians launch a conventional war against the Palestinians. How absurd. There are many forms that violent resistance can take short of all out conventional war. There are many factions in the Palestinian resistance each with their own approach and I support all of them in their resistance to Zio-Nazi oppression violent or otherwise. The fact is, with drone technology the playing field has tilted a tiny bit back toward the Palestinians.
“in their quest to form a new capitalist state.”
Without a state, capitalist or otherwise, one is defenceless against foreign aggression.
“The stupidity – and inhumanity – of nationalism knows no bounds it seems.”
Yes, Zio-Nazi nationalism is stupid.
“Expect the Israeli regime to step up its oppression by several notches.”
Short of Nazi gas chambers the oppression dial is already up at 10.
“Expect the Israeli right-wing to gain yet more political strength and to drown out any dissenting opinion at the polls.”
It’s already there and getting worse. The Israelis see no repercussions for their actions. Only violent resistance will force a change in their behaviour.
“Expect thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of Palestinian workers to lose their lives as the Israeli military launches a massive military response in retaliation.”
And when Israelis also suffer then they’ll be forced to negotiate.
“It’s not as if we haven’t been here before.”
Things have never been so bad for the Palestinians despite their attempts at peaceful change. Violence is their only option now.
“Not that a life of a Palestinian worker counts for much in the minds of our bourgeois nationalists of which TS is a prime example.”
The Palestinians are the authors of their own fate. They’ve a right to use violence under international law. Should they choose to employ that right I support them 100%
“Real workers don’t matter a toss to him”
“True” workers per chance? As opposed untrue workers?
“everything has to be sacrificed on the altar of an abstract ideal called “national liberation”.”
Yes. Better to die standing than on one’s knees.
“What is that going to achieve anyway?”
Negotiations.
“Palestinian workers should be forging ties with Israeli workers just as Ukrainian workers should be forging ties with Russian workers in opposition to the barbarism and inhumanity of capitalist nationalism and its warmongers.”
Israeli workers want them all dead.
“As the Communist Manifesto pointed out, the workers “have no country. We cannot take from them what they have not got.””
Israeli workers want the Palestinians dead. Israel is almost indistinguishable from Nazi Germany these days.
“I won’t waste any more time or go off-topic again answering your ignorant ideas.”
Lol, only All-in and his merry band of Guardian Posers think that resumistung oppression is stupid.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2022/05/islamic-jihad-claims-new-drones-made-gaza
“What may succeed is a non-violent civil disobedience campaign witnessed when the fifth of Israel’s citizens joined in a campaign alongside the West Bank Palestinians.”
The Palestinians have been trying it for decades. It doesn’t work. No effect on halting the genocide. Heard of “The Right of Return” protests? Zero effect on Israeli politics and public opinion.
“There is some speculation that a way ahead would be for the Palestinians to start a civil-rights movement to be declared full and equal citizens and West Bank and Gaza become a part of Israel in a form of a new federal constitution.”
Tried, resulted in continued genocide.
“Internationally, BDS is also a positive strategy yes”
But isn’t stopping the genocide. Violence does stop violence. Like it or not.
“No Arab nation is willing to come to the Palestinian’s aid.”
Liar. Syria still stands with the Palestinians. They send what aid they can.
“There is no Palestinian Mandela”
Rubbish. But they’re rotting away in prisons or roadside corpses.
“to placate the fears of the Jewish-Israelis with the hope of reconciliation.”
The Zio-Nazis don’t want reconciliation they want ethno-supremacism.
“A political compromise as seen at the end of the Northern Ireland civil war with the IRA becoming a part of its government is not an option”
Why not?
“I am pessimistic.
But those who believe that violent insurrection is a solution for Palestinians are callously playing straight into the hands of the Zionist right-wing.”
Rubbish, being cowed plays into the Zio-Nazis hands. The only message they understand is violence. Soon the Palestinians will have drones. Lots of drones. A cheap airforce denied all sych previous neo-colonialist movements. The Israelis won’t sleep soundly in their beds anymore. Good, they shouldn’t.
