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With society as a whole having ceased to be scary, ugly, violent, alienating, competitive and oppressive, I think communities as you describe would eventually lose their reasons to be, and would just fade away.

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And a place of restraint, not being punishment but simply restraint, need not be hideous, smelly and violent like prison. The restrained should not be denied comfort.

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The unhealthy impulse that fuels survivalist cults comes from capitalism/class society. Violence begets violence.

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I disagree with “forced to interact.” Who will be forcing anyone? Only the violent will be restrained. The asocial and reclusive must be respected like anyone else. As long as they are non-violent.

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“How will socialism deal with people who want to follow their own ethnic traditions and not mix with other groups of people they don’t like?”

Why should they be “dealt with”?
Socialism, unlike capitalism, will leave people alone. Only if people commit violence and harm others will restraint be necessary. I stress, NOT punishment, simply restraint.

Socialism will revel in diversity and celebrate difference.

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And destalinization had already taken place in 1956.

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Wez, do you extend this feeling to other species, with whom we are all related, or only to humanity?

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TS ““… providing space for all nations to pursue sovereignty and peaceful co-prosperity…”

Proof he has no idea what a nation-state is, what capitalism is, nor what socialism is.

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An elephant is killed every 15 minutes.

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So in what way were Soviet Russia and China not fascist?

If you want to be super strict about it, only Italy was fascist and not Germany, because only Italy called itself Fascist.

Otherwise, I don’t see how Russia and China were not.

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True. It’s a waste of our time. We should ignore him and scroll past his comments so as not to be angered into responding.

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It must be because he probably belongs to a Stalinist party. Hence he follows its leadership and repeats its slogans. Which is why there is no social analysis in his retorts. Ask him to define socialism and also define capitalism.

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And the Bolshevik states were also fascist, no less fascist than Germany, Italy and Spain.

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I agree with Wez here about Freud. I think it is a shortcoming in socialists to ignore and not face the multiplicity of factors that prevent most of the working class from becoming aware.

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Nationalism restricts the personality. I, for instance see kinship in all life, not just other humans. So, how can one grow in the perception that we are kin with all mammals and other animals if one can’t even accept other humans as kin?

It’s like a sketch in The Likely Lads, where Terry says he hates Germans, Italians, Chinese, Arabs, Pakistanis; then that he also hates Scots, Irish and Welsh; hates his English neighbours too, and hates the sod who lives downstairs in the same building.

We are every one of us a descendant of a nonhuman, and we are all relatives.

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