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  • in reply to: Good News: And No Religion, Too #238571
    Thomas_More
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    “Surely restraint is a form of punishment?”

    The subject won’t perhaps like it, and may see it as such. But would society be inflicting it as punishment? That’s the difference.

    In a sane society, very unlike today, the subject would also be looked at to try and find the roots of why he feels the need to drink himself stupid, and then risk his own life by driving.

    Under capitalism we know that intoxication (with drink or drugs), is a form of escapism. Why would anyone in socialism wish to escape?

    in reply to: Good News: And No Religion, Too #238570
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    No. The big difference is, that in class society, restraint isn’t just restraint. It’s about inflicting punishment. Prison: ugly, violent, dirty and smelly surroundings. Regimentation. Deliberate disrespect.

    In socialism, restraint will be enough, surely? Need the place of restraint be horrendous? Need the subject be placed amid those likely to do him violence? Need he be shouted at and abused, or made to stand to attention?

    Whatever the nature of restraint will be, it will be for those in that society to decide.

    Punishment, on the other hand, is linked to the idealist dogma of free will and guilt, in which human representatives of divine judgment hand down rewards and punishments.

    In socialism, I believe restraint will be purely utilitarian.

    in reply to: Good News: And No Religion, Too #238567
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    Or do you believe in blame and punishment in socialism?

    in reply to: Good News: And No Religion, Too #238566
    Thomas_More
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    In which case I would reply,
    “True, but you still need to be restrained.”

    in reply to: Good News: And No Religion, Too #238524
    Thomas_More
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    Columbo. Addressing the question of “if.”

    Peter Falk: “If we hadn’t pulled it off, would you have killed him?”

    Rod Steiger: “Why are you asking stupid questions? We did pull it off.”

    in reply to: Tribute to Kropotkin #238454
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    Thank you. Anarchist sympathies still prevail in southern France, where Marx is not liked so much.

    The rural population seemed to divide as either Anarchist or royalist.

    in reply to: Russian Tensions #238453
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    TS – “Won’t even waste my time reading it.”

    We waste our time reading you. We’ve answered all your justifications for state-run butchery many times over … Over your head. But then, like all the apologists for totalitarianism, you only repeat state propaganda and cannot handle substance.

    in reply to: Tribute to Kropotkin #238438
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    Why was Anarchism more popular in Latin southern Europe, and Marxism associated more with the north?

    in reply to: Tribute to Kropotkin #238437
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    Thanks. I didn’t know. He has gone back up in my estimation.

    Jean Jaures was murdered by a patriot for opposing the war. And yet, I believe Jaures was a pioneer of “socialist” reformism (?)

    It is evident that contradictions were about long before the internet.

    in reply to: Tribute to Kropotkin #238406
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    Kautsky too.

    in reply to: Bolshevism/Russian nationalism. #238400
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    Got my Xmas reading sorted:

    Tintin in the Land of the Soviets.

    😀

    in reply to: Tribute to Kropotkin #238399
    Thomas_More
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    Kropotkin’s secretary was Elisee Reclus, and Reclus’ secretary was Alexandra David-Neel, who became a Buddhist. 😀

    in reply to: Tribute to Kropotkin #238398
    Thomas_More
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    Oui, c’est vrai.

    Makhno confronted Kropotkin face to face over the latter’s support for the war.
    Makhno’s life was fighting, but not for any state.

    in reply to: Good News: And No Religion, Too #238386
    Thomas_More
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    We measure significance according to what impacts our own existence and the things we care about. It is subjective.

    in reply to: Russian Tensions #238376
    Thomas_More
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    True Imperialist, you still watching those old war movies with Nazi baddies vs Soviet heroes? Tiresome. Change the record. We’ve had page after page here of your repetitiveness. You have nothing to tell us, yet you keep on doing so.

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