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Thank you, but i’m housebound.
Horrifically, I did in fact desert to the King’s side, from Devereux’s regiment to Sir Bevill Grenvile’s! (Oh, horror!)
Yes, I had a pash for the three pretty sisters who ran the royalist regt, and preferred being with them to being with beer-bellied middle-aged roundheads.
Not all bad news though. At least I signed up for the rebel side in the 1985 Monmouth re-enactment, and got kicked in the groin by a royalist colonel on Glastonbury Tor.
Thomas_MoreParticipantNext you’ll say Alexandre Dumas was a reactionary for making his musketeers try to save Charles I. in Thirty Years After.
An admirable novel. You’d do well to read it, to give you some “pluck” and buckle your swash a little.Thomas_MoreParticipantNo I do not. But if it gives you pleasure to say so, so be it.
The overthrow of Charles I. was an essential stage in the English bourgeois revolution. There, I said it, and I acknowledge it.
I still like him for his pluck, and I still oppose his execution.
There! 🙂Thomas_MoreParticipantWho then grew up and became a sound and coherent materialist thinker and writer.
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Thomas_MoreParticipantWeren’t the Highland Clearances and the various indigenous genocides around the world also progressive in marxian terms? Does that mean I should support them?
Thomas_MoreParticipantI do like the first for certain things. He was a thorn in the side of the bourgeoisie. He stopped enclosures. He stopped witch-hunts.
I never read of the parliamentary side stopping witch-hunters. In fact Hopkins flourished with roundhead protection, and had to flee when the King’s forces gained ground.
I do commend Cromwell for outlawing bear and bull-baiting, but I suspect it was more on religious grounds than anything else.
Rather than the forerunners of socialism using the revolution, wasn’t it more the revolution using them? And then packing them off to kill Irish people?
I like to think I would have kept my head down, and therefore on, whereas you would have either been hanged by Cromwellians, or hanged, drawn and quartered by Charles II for signing the death warrant.
Coppe kept his head down, and on.
I like him too.Thomas_MoreParticipantI avoided the whole thing. I watched My Family on W, and Not Going Out on Dave.
Have a look at the Spike Milligan skit above. It’ll cheer you up.
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Thomas_MoreParticipantMy opposition to executions is not dependent on culpability or innocence, nor does it denote support for the executed.
Thomas_MoreParticipantIt’s because his father was executed that Charles II sought vengeance!
Thomas_MoreParticipantI’m not going to support the execution of Charles I, nor am I going to support the hanging of the Levellers.
I shall oppose the death penalty under all circumstances and shall remain consistent in that, just like the man I admire most in history, the Marquis de Sade – observing the follies of men but remaining guiltless of any participation in their crimes.- This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by Thomas_More.
Thomas_MoreParticipant” Next you’ll be telling us that James II was a good bloke too.”
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Next you’ll be saying Matthew Hopkins was a good bloke. Only the retreat of Roundhead forces put an end to his crimes.
Thomas_MoreParticipantLike Tom Paine, i’m against the death penalty, even for kings.
Thomas_MoreParticipantTell it to the Levellers murdered by Cromwell.
Thomas_MoreParticipantI put this on the off-topic thread, but it seems also apt to post here:
Thomas_MoreParticipant“Stunning observation, TM 🙂”
Gramercy, madame.
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