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That is all good. You have my respect.
Thomas_MoreParticipantProtestant (but not Anabaptist or Catholic) Christianity has always blamed the poor for being poor – especially Calvinism, the favourite choice for the bourgeoisie in the early modern period.
Thomas_MoreParticipantA Hungarian waitress told us that immigrants should be shot while still on the boats.
Thomas_MoreParticipantYou may be right.
” Ancient Greek has two verbs for crucify: anastauroo (ἀνασταυρόω), from stauros (which in modern Greek only means “cross” but which in antiquity was used of any kind of wooden pole, pointed or blunt, bare or with attachments) and apotumpanizo (ἀποτυμπανίζω) “crucify on a plank”,[4] together with anaskolopizo (ἀνασκολοπίζω “impale”). In earlier pre-Roman Greek texts anastauro usually means “impale”.[5][6][7]
The Greek used in the Christian New Testament uses four verbs, three of them based upon stauros (σταυρός), usually translated “cross”. The most common term is stauroo (σταυρόω), “to crucify”, occurring 46 times; sustauroo (συσταυρόω), “to crucify with” or “alongside” occurs five times, while anastauroo (ἀνασταυρόω), “to crucify again” occurs only once at the Epistle to the Hebrews 6:6. Prospegnumi (προσπήγνυμι), “to fix or fasten to, impale, crucify” occurs only once, at the Acts of the Apostles 2:23.
The English term cross derives from the Latin word crux,[8] which classically referred to a tree or any construction of wood used to hang criminals as a form of execution. The term later came to refer specifically to a cross.[9] The related term crucifix derives from the Latin crucifixus or cruci fixus, past participle passive of crucifigere or cruci figere, meaning “to crucify” or “to fasten to a cross”.[10][11][12][13]”
The cross was not originally used by the early Christians as their emblem. There are no crucifixion images, I believe, in the catacombs of Rome, and Jesus is portrayed as a mischievous clean-shaven boy. The Christian emblem was not a cross but a fish.
The bearded Christ came later and was based on images of Zeus.
Thomas_MoreParticipant” ( although the roman did not use cross )”
Are you sure? So Spartacus wasn’t crucified?
I don’t believe that. To crucify comes from crux (cross).
Thomas_MoreParticipantAn Egyptian I knew in Switzerland told me that when he went to renew his visa to the U.S., he was asked what political parties he belonged to. When he replied that he didn’t belong to any, he was told to list all the political parties he didn’t belong to!!!
Thomas_MoreParticipantChristopher Hill’s The English Bible is an excellent historical materialist history of the English Bible.
Thomas_MoreParticipantI had the 1582 Rheims New Testament.
Thomas_MoreParticipantM.R. James edited the non-canonical New Testament.
Thomas_MoreParticipantThe Jerusalem Bible is Catholic, isn’t it?
Thomas_MoreParticipantThe Adulterer’s Bible is famous for its misprint: “Thou shalt covet thy neighbour’s wife.”
Thomas_MoreParticipantNothing comes up on that page and I get an “unsafe” message.
Thomas_MoreParticipantSade antispeciste. (French).
Thomas_MoreParticipantWhat i’m saying is there must be socialists, or at least people coming close to socialism there, and globally, who have never heard of the WSM, but who, like us, reject leftism.
It is arrogant indeed to think that we alone have come to our, or at least similar, conclusions, when discontent is ever more widespread.They might not even use the word socialism, because they equate the word with leftist, authoritarian, groups.
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Thomas_MoreParticipant“Human above everything.” I challenge that. I want fellow animals to live free, plentifully and satisfyingly for themselves too.
But that’s for other threads, and my views are well known.
If humans are to still be speciesist, then they will still not have grown up and recognised that they are in nature, not above it. And while still in thrall to the master principle, they’ll be unable to make socialism work. -
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