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DJPHe does seem like a deluded idiot, very similar to right wing Holocaust deniers in that he quibbles over the numbers of deaths attributed to Stalin. Almost like "Hey, Stalin wasn't as bad as they make out, he only killed a million people."If he's peddling bullshit, then he should be brought down.
Are there any quotes from Marx, whereby he outlines socialism/communism as being a society of common ownership and democratic control of the worlds resources, by and for the community?
If Marx made it so…err…clear what he meant by socialism/communism, then why is it we have so much disagreement as to what socialism/communism means?
Young Master Smeet wrote:Technical administration is not the same thing as moderation, and even then, for a third paty to be used we'd need a commercial contract. As a party resource, we need a chair familiar with the party case, and with a demonstrable commitment to the party. This forum does not belong to its regular users, it belongs to the socialist party, and it's democratic institutions.I'm a little unsure as to whether or not you're saying that for a non party member to be a volunteer moderator, a commercial contract would need to be drawn up? Surely I'm just misreading it?Who ever suggested a non party member moderator would be someone who just turned up, posted a couple of posts and then said "That looks easy, I'll 'av a go". I do believe I said a party supporter/sympathiser and forum community member. I would also expect it to be agreed upon by the relevant party body etc. As for demonstrable commitment to the party. What do you call volunteering to be a moderator on this site? As far as I can tell it's a bloody mine field, with snipers ready to take a pop at you every now and then. Is there a flood of party member volunteers eager to help with moderation duties?So far no logical objection has been put forward as to why a non party sympathiser couldn't be a moderator.It just boils down to, "It's our party and no one else is invited."
Young Master Smeet wrote:Yes, or we could just disband the party and use this forum to talk about flowers. We could do lots of things, but personally, handing the keys to the platform to someone who is unable or unwilling to gain actual membership of the party is not one of them.How is it "handing the keys to the platform"? The same controls would exist for a non party member as a party member. Moderators surely have limited access to the system? Any moderator would be subject to being removed from those duties and even completely removed from the forum, should they abuse the position?The way I see it regular users of any forum, inevitably become a community. The main objection can only be that some party members may object to having their wrist slapped by a non party member.
Surely a non party member of the forum could be enlisted to perform moderation duties. If for instance a sympathiser were to volunteer their time and energy, what would be the fears in allowing such a scenario?Surely if a major problem arose a non SPGB member moderator would expect to be removed from that post and even if warranted, removed from the forum. No different to a party member.Such supporter inclusivity could be a positive move for the SPGB as a whole.
More thanks your way, YMS.I know from our point of view the issue why and who's running budget deficits is a non issue. Either way it doesn't alter the inherent inequalities, and boom and bust cycles of capitalism.I was trying to figure out if the present government austerity plans were driven by ideology or economic necessity. When it comes to economics my brain switches off, but I suspect it's a mix of both.
Gnome,What a surprise, I didn't think you would admit to expressing a negative attitude towards NERB. But your attitude is there for all to see and was in fact commented on by another, non NERB, party member.As to your calculations. I already said that NERB has twenty members, five of whom take part in the branch online meetings on this site. My brief calculations make it 25% that are, probably, officially deemed active members. That makes 75% of members being inactive, not 90% as you suggest. I expect it is the way it has always been with the SPGB as a whole.Perhaps you have the answers to the mystery? An answer would be appreciated as your question seems to be a loaded one.
Vin, you'll get no answers from Gnome.I had hoped he would have done the comradely thing and apologise for his display of negativity towards NERB. As both you and I have pointed out, there is no hostility towards KSRB from NERB members.To put it into context still further, I don't recall any NERB member express hostility towards KSRB despite individual members from both branches coming to blows in the past.
Found this that challenges the first article.http://brackenworld.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/did-ramesh-patel-get-paid-for-this.html
You are in essence correct Steve. The last posts you refer to in the "Are physical meetings the best form of democratic control in 2015", are what I would describe as related off-topic. This is to be found in most discussions online and in real world face to face discussions. It's very heard to monitor and if strict adherence to rules is followed threads would likely run dry.The job of a Mod is a thankless task.
