rodshaw
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I've just been listening to this broadcast. I thought Adam got a very fair crack of the whip.Had to laugh when Elizabeth Jones started talking about Shrodinger's cat and wave particle duality to describe the capitalist economy! 'Look at it too closely and it flies away'. If only!
Will the traffic lights still be switched on? I'll be going through a few reds. Safely, of course. Wheee!
I don't know much about art but I know what I like. But I don't think this is true of just communists.There's The Culture in the Iain M. Banks novels, a vaguely communistic future civilisation.There's The Culture with the Sunday Times every week but it's hardly for communists, mostly featuring people with a new book to sell or a film coming out. But A A Gill's TV reviews are a bit of a laugh.If we see the distinction between work and leisure becoming distinctly blurred in a socialist society, if not disappearing altogether, then maybe the word 'culture' will only exist in a science lab.
Vin Maratty wrote:I can't see a democratically organised working class being afraid of some bricks and mortar, so perhaps it could become a (class) war museum to remind the free people of socialism where the representatives of the old ruling class met to administer their oppressive and exploitive system called capitalism.Parliament could be moved to Westminster Abbey instead.I'll get my coat.
ALB wrote:I know that the weekend before I'll be rushing around trying to spernd all my money before it becomes useless.Like it's going out of fashion, in fact!
Out of the mouths of babes and Boris, eh? He's priceless.Any prizes for guessing what he might have said next?'…just like me.'or'…as for me, I'm joining the SPGB.'
Actually, I don't really understand what the unsubscribe (stop receiving) option in the notification emails purports to do. If it only works for the specific post the email is referring to, not for subsequent ones, it's a bit limited really. I've used it a few times but notifications relating to the same thread still keep coming.
Just wait till the Science for Communists thread has been going for nearly two years and see how many hits that's got to…over 6000 in its first month.
steve colborn wrote:Semantics, nothing but semantics!!!Not really – for example, 'International Socialist Party' is, happily, not one of the alternative names being suggested by anyone, conjuring up as it does (at least to me) a picture of socialism and nations existing side by side. But that's ok, because we wouldn't dream of using it.
SocialistPunk wrote:Hi rodshaw…because you wish to present socialism as international not national.Minor point maybe, but actually, no, I don't want to promote inter-national socialism. I want to promote world socialism.Rod
If it came to a vote, I would be in favour of streamlining the names of the various parties, and of adopting a standard logo. I don't see how it could do any harm and it might do some good. Certainly, I prefer to tell people I'm in the World Socialist Movement (or Party) rather than in the SPGB. I always feel I have to qualify the party's name by immediately disowning the nationalistic-sounding GB bit. Especially with all the 'Great British' this-and-that we get shoved at us these days.However, maybe a better policy would be for us to push the recently re-vamped WSM umbrella website as the flagship, and put more content on there. Maybe, for example, the general bit of this discussion forum should be on there rather than here.Also, I would like to know, maybe from Alan or SocialistPunk, if there is any evidence that use of 'Great Britain' in the party name is actually holding the movement back. Are you being told this? Is it putting people off joining? If we could quantify this, it might help decide how much effort was worth putting into the debate.
The ICSU looks to be one of those bodies that could well be enhanced and expanded for use in a socialist society, even though at present, inevitably maybe, it smacks of 'how can science best serve the interests of profit?', or, at best , 'how can science work within the contraints of capitalism?'Having said which, it's the kind of organisation from which you'd hope some kind of socialist understanding would eventually spring. Is it worth organising a debate with them?
