rodmanlewis
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Is Corbyn suffering from the Clement Attlee Syndrome: "A car with Attlee inside pulled up, the door opened, and no-one got out!"
DJP wrote:They've yet to invoke article 50. For this to happen, an act of Parliament will have to be passed. However, the vast majority of Parliament are in favour of "stay". The great charade is only just beginning.The question put was "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?", which is asking for an opinion, not requesting a mandate. The question should have been: "Shall the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"
I wonder how many workers are reluctant to join the Socialist Party because they are unclear about our attitude towards various sexual preferences?Is it suggested that we add some additional questions on this when someone applies to join?"What is your attitude to homosexuality?""What is your attitude to bisexuality?""What is your attitude to LGBT?""What is your attitude to bestiality?"As Dr. David Starkey (himself gay) once asked: "Has 'The love that dare not speak its name' become the love that won't shut up?" This could now apply to other sexual preferences and situations.
Sympo wrote:Maybe a member of the SPGB could write an article about it in the party magazine addressing the issue? Perhaps the article can convince members that it's not very good to have racist, sexist or homophobic opinions?Or maybe I'm being too naive to think that people can change their views about these things by reading an article.If it's true, you can't stop someone from having an opinion, only persuade them from voicing it. If you persuade someone that their opinion is wrong, then it ceases to be an opinion, but becomes an evaluation or assessment of a situation.
DJP wrote:And this, along with protecting the right to claim benefits, which many EU workers living in the UK rely on, was the main reason I went against the party line and voted "Remain". Most members view "the interests of the working class" too narrowly.Though possibly, though I think not likely, these things could be preserved post-Brexit.This attitude could equally apply to a general election–choosing the party which appears to most advantage the working class. General elections are just a variation on the reform programme.
A true leader imposes themselves on the masses, and is not elected by them. Elected political "leaders" are really the main salesmen for their particular causes.
Meel wrote:Do you blame Christianity for the way the West – and especially the USA – have run roughshod over several developing countries over the last decades, as well – bombing and maiming to protect their interests?I'm not blaming any religion. What I'm saying is that is it a coincidence that very few (any?) Muslim countries have a bourgeoise democratic system?One might say that Muslim countries show their "badness" internally, while Western "democratic" ones express their evil externally.
SocialistPunk wrote:I suspect many, casual, leave voters didn't quite expect this outcome, but thought the government would be scared into easing up on austerity. The sad thing is, they've just handed the reigns to a potentially more hard line bunch of Tories.I think you meant "reins", but in this case you were perfectly correct!
stuartw2112 wrote:Yes, good points, I accept all that. I am calm, and I shall carry on campaigning with Labour In, but the worry is that a Brexit win will, as you've said, give a boost to racism and xenophobia,You're confusing cause and effect. Brexit of itself won't give a boost to racism and xenophobia, it will endorse what is already there.
Before Richard Dawkins's recent stroke, I thought it might have been a good idea to have debated him on the subject "Is a world without religion enough?"
Meel wrote:Don't know if you saw the funny changes to Farage's poster on Twitter:http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/17/farages-migrant-propaganda-faulty-thankfully-twitter-fixed/Most of these refugees come from Muslim countries. This could indicate one of two things:Islam works hand-in-glove with dictators or is powerless to stand up to them.
