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ParticipantDoes anybody know anything about this? I realise the so-called Labour Party will stoop to anything but even this seems a step too far ….
It’s a bit dated mind you – Dec 2022 – but I came across it on Twitter
“BREAKING: Free school meal eligibility should be performance-based according to a leaked Labour policy document. “We need to incentivise children from disadvantaged backgrounds to perform in school rather than reward poor results.” https://t.co/LWpMte0Paf”
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ParticipantI see the utter nutter won. Now let’s see how successful he is in introducing anarcho-capitalism in Argentina
_____________________The anarcho-capitalists are gonna be sorely disappointed. This could well be the death knell of anarcho-capitalism as a cult. Ancaps used to gleefully point to Somalia as a practical example of Ancapistan working – a land of warlords, internecine conflict, al-Qaeda-linked or Isis-linked groups, and a thriving piracy sector. You dont hear much reference to Somalia from them these days
In the case of Argentina, it will just be business as usual. Still, there is something deliciously surreal and ironic about an anarcho-capitalist (so-called) being in charge of the state machine when anarcho-capitalism is supposed to renounce statism altogether. I wouldn’t mind betting this guy will end up using the repressive powers of the state as forcefully as any of his predecessors and maybe even more so
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ParticipantOnce again we see yet more examples of the inexorable creep towards an authoritarian Big Brother state in the case of Britain. A deluded supporter of Hamas makes a speech a day after that organisation breaks through the Israel security fence on a murderous mission to kill Israelis and she describes this as an act of resistance. All this woman did was voice an opinion and however much you might disagree with the opinion, she did not murder anyone.
Should she have the right to voice her opinion? Of course, she should. Just as one should equally have the right to oppose her. Any kind of censorship whether from the left or the right demonstrates an underlying contempt for the ability of working people to come to a conclusion themselves about what is being stated, the inference being that they need to be condescendingly protected from hearing such opinions by others, superior to them
I would still like to know if, since the British state is going to arrest people who support a murderous organisation like Hamas, it is also going to arrest people who support the actions of the murderous Israeli state that has led to the mass murder of at least 4500 completely innocent children in Gaza so far. Perhaps the British state can start by rounding up culpable individuals like Messrs Sunak and Starmer and arraigning them before a judge in Westminster?
The murder of children is happening not just in Gaza but in the West Bank too. It is absolutely sickening
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ParticipantAlistair Crooke´s assessment of the situation:
“Israeli popular sentiment — even amongst former liberals — is moving toward a Greater Nakba. Gaza is under Nakba pressures. So is the West Bank, as settler violence against Palestinians surges. Even a ‘liberal’ such as former opposition leader Lapid now agrees that ‘settlers’ in the occupied West Bank are not ‘settlers’ at all, since the land is but the ‘Biblical land of Israel’.
Nakba ‘ambitions’ are widening to South Lebanon (up to the Litani River) too. The radical members of Netanyahu’s government say Israelis will never return to the kibbutz adjacent to Lebanon, without Hezbollah’s removal from the border area.So, the call is heard for “Israel” to ‘take’ Lebanon up to the Litani (a key water source) — and ‘serendipitously’ the Israeli air force has begun operating up to 40 kms inside Lebanon. Cabinet members now openly speak of the IOF needing to turn its attention to Hezbollah once Hamas has been ‘obliterated’.
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Plainly, the White House is struggling to avoid the slide towards full regional war, as both the Lebanese front and the Iraqi front heats up: On Sunday, Iraqi movements again fired missiles at the American base in Shaddadi.“Israel” is sensing the present crisis to be both an existential risk, but an ‘opportunity’ too – an opportunity to establish “Israel” across ‘its Biblical lands’ over the long term. There is no mistaking it — this is the direction of travel of Israeli popular sentiment, from both Left and Right wings, to bloody eschatology.”
https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/opinion/-israel-s—nakba-doctrine
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ParticipantYes by all means we can call Hamas a “terrorist” organisation. But is the carpet bombing of Gaza not also a tactic of terror and is not the organisation behind it – the Israeli state – no less, therefore, a “terrorist organisation”? In the Big Brother state called Britain a teenager gets arrested by the Thought Police merely for posting something on social media in support of Hamas. Deluded though he may be all he is doing is expressing an opinion. Is the British regime now going to be consistent and arrest anyone who supports Israel’s actions in Gaza that have already led to the murder of 11,000 human beings including 4500 thousand children? I suspect not.
And what about the deluded nationalists who support either Ukraine or Russia in that other war we hear about? Britain supports the authoritarian far-right Zelensky regime. Why does it not also proscribe the authoritarian far-right Putin regime as a terrorist organisation like Hamas? It makes you wonder….
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ParticipantHe has a long history of on-the-record condemnations of individual atrocities against civilians which give the illusion that he is a reasonable human being, yet continues to support or implicitly endorse the ideologies, movements and organisations responsible for the mass-murder of ordinary members of the working class.
——————————————–Corbyn has I´m afraid made a complete fool of himself over this issue. You can’t say Hamas is not a terrorist organisation and then say you “condemn the targeting of all civilian life. That includes the deplorable acts of terror by Hamas against Israeli civilians.” But at the end of the day, despite the reasonableness he projects, he is a nationalist and a supporter of capitalism. That will inevitably draw you into contradictory postures on the matter
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ParticipantWhile Jezza isn’t an antisemite, Morgan is a tosspot of the first order, and the equivalent question should clearly also be being put to politicians defending Israeli terrorism, ‘Socialist’ Corbyn demonstrates once again what a contemptible anti-working class scumbag he is.
…………………………….Yes, I think Corbyn blew the opportunity to put clear water between his own views and any suggestion that he approved of what Hamas did. He could have just said “Yes Hamas is a terrorist organisation but so is the Israeli state” but he didn’t. It would have stopped Morgan in his tracks although, to be fair, the latter is an absolutely terrible interviewer who should never be allowed anywhere near a recording studio: he is just an opinionated loudmouth who doesn’t give anyone the opportunity to explain themselves.
Corbyn has spoken out against Hamas, as a matter of fact. In a Twitter a day or so ago he said
“I condemn the targeting of all civilian life. That includes the deplorable acts of terror by Hamas against Israeli civilians. And that includes acts of terror by the Israeli government against Palestinian civilians. More than 11,000 people in Gaza have been killed, almost half of whom are children. ”
Tomorrow, MPs will be voting on the call for a ceasefire in Gaza. It is a simple moral choice: do you support the indiscriminate killing of human beings, or do you want to stop the further loss of life?
In the aftermath of horror, we need voices for peace and diplomacy. Instead,…
— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) November 14, 2023
I can’t see the big deal about condemning Hamas as a terrorist organisation and one that was previously supported by the Netanyahu regime as a means of drawing Palestinian support away from the PLO. Perhaps he did not want to alienate some of his supporters who like him endorse the idea of Palestinian nationalism rather than take a working-class perspective on this matter
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ParticipantKaz,
But I didn’t suggest “the IDF killed the Israelis on 7/10”. All I said was that there is “growing evidence that a lot of those 1400 dead Israelis were actually killed by the IDF itself.” In other words, I agree completely with your assessment that “Hamas killed some guys and Israel killed some guys”. The people who are indulging in Qanon-type conspiracy theories are the kind of people who will swallow the lies served up by MSM about 40 babies being beheaded by Hamas without blinking twice.
Of course, it goes without saying that my position is “a pox on both your houses” as far as both the Hamas terrorists and Israeli state terrorists are concerned. Nationalism of any kind disgusts me. Hamas was a creature of the Israeli state anyway – it was initially supported and funded by Netanyahu and his band of racist thugs as a counterweight to the PLO. Hamas uses Palestinian workers in the same way that the Zionists use Israeli workers. To hell with both of them but in the meanwhile, we have the absolute obscenity of thousands of innocent internees of the Gaza concentration camp being bombed out of existence while creeps like Sunak and Starmer witter on pathetically about “Israel having a right to self-defense”
https://www.tbsnews.net/hamas-israel-war/how-israel-went-helping-create-hamas-bombing-it-718378
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ParticipantThis is one of the reasons why SPEW is beating the SPGB in the search rankings for sure.
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In that case, why not put it down as “worldsocialism.org/TheSocialistParty”? That will get ´em!
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ParticipantFrom the Daily Heil
“Three women have pleaded not guilty to displaying images indicating support for banned terrorist organisation Hamas at a pro-Palestinian march in central London.
Heba Alhayek, 29, Pauline Ankunda, 26, and Noimutu Olayinka Taiwo, 27, were all charged under the Terrorism Act as part of the same investigation, for allegedly wearing or displaying images of paragliders during the demonstration in Whitehall on October 14.
“Prosecutor Mark Luckett said: ‘The prosecution say that there is a clear and unique association between the image of a paraglider and the Hamas terrorist attack a week earlier.’
He added that wearing an item of clothing displaying an image associated with the Hamas attacks ‘glorifies the actions of the group by celebrating the unique, successful tactic used by them’. Militants from the group, banned as a terror organisation by the UK, used paragliders to enter Israel from Gaza on October 7 before killing more than 1,400 Israelis.”
This is BS at so many levels
Firstly, there is growing evidence that a lot of those 1400 dead Israelis were actually killed by the IDF itself. Like the lie about the 40 decapitated babies what we are served up is misinformation on a massive scale which the servile MSM laps up and obediently regurgitates. Tell a lie often enough and mysteriously it somehow becomes the truth. This is a modern-day version of Goebbels
see this for example
Secondly, whilst one holds no brief for the authoritarian pro-nationalist Hamas group their terrorism pales in significance compared with the Israeli state-sponsored terrorism – not only in Gaza where more than 10, 000 people have already been murdered by the Israeli state (4000 of them, children) but also on the west bank where more than 150 Palestinian workers have been killed under the vile racist Netanyahu regime since its forces invaded the Gaza concentration camp last month.
So it’s a crime to have a picture of some paragliders on your back but it’s not a crime to support military action that leads to the cold-blooded murder of 4000 kids. How sick can you get? And these are the same people who will shed crocodile tears over Russian missiles destroying apartments in Ukraine (but not Ukrainian missiles destroying apartments in Donbas) when all missiles, no matter who they are aimed at or by whom , should be condemned outright as an abomination
The double standards and hypocrisy just take your breath away
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ParticipantThis site has some useful comparative data though I do not know how reliable it is
According to it, average annual working hours are
India 2480
USA 1892
Japan 1903
UK 1866
Germany 1783https://clockify.me/working-hours
The figure for India is particularly interesting. Sunak´s father-in-law, a capitalist, has recently whinged on about Indian workers not working hard enough
“Narayana Murthy says India’s work culture must change: ‘Youngsters should work 70 hours a week’ Narayana Murthy called for more discipline and improvement in work productivity. ‘Our culture has to change to that of highly determined, extremely disciplined and extremely hard-working people,’ he said.”
This is clear proof that time travel does exist and that it is indeed possible for someone from the Victorian era to re-materialise in 21st century.
On the other hand, I am not quite sure what century Elon Musk hails from with his odd assertion that AI will mean there will be no more work to be done but for some strange reason, money will persist and we will all enjoy a “Universal high income”
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ParticipantSome background context
Massive Oil and Gas Reserves Discovered Under Gaza – Israel Grants Development Licenses
Perhaps that helps to explain Israel´s apparent attempt to ethnically cleanse Gaza which some Israeli politicians are calling for – at least according to this guy
https://kurtnimmo.substack.com/p/gaza-ceasefire?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
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ParticipantThis link was sent to me. The writer talks of “Karl Marx’s dream was of state-regulated general production that allowed liberated workers to “hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner” without the drudgery of being tied to one job.”
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