paula.mcewan
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Yes Almamater – I agree I’m not the boss and I haven’t made a ruling. I’m content that we can move on. Thank you Piers. I forget why some of might argue ushttps://youtu.be/C3_0GqPvr4U?si=L0CWiv20TLEz3Zb_sw
It’s sad and annoying that we’re being fed propaganda telling us that we must support Ukraine in this completely idiotic conflict.
Well Bijou I admire your tenacity. However there is a difference between manly Geordies calling each other “pet” and you calling Lizzie “pet”. Lizzie objected to you addressing her in this way for good reason. I don’t understand why you can’t understand this. If women are addressed by men as – for example – love, pet, hen, babe, sweetie etc in the context of a political online discussion then surely you must see that it is patronising. Even though you normally address other men in this way due to your ethnic background apparently, and bearing in mind that Lizzie is not a manly Geordie as far as we know.
On this occasion I agree with Lizzie (although I don’t consider it acceptable for her to accuse Bijou of being a “sexist shit”). I do think it was sexist of Bijou to address Lizzie as “pet”. He’s tried to defend himself but his Geordie excuses don’t wash. His nearest and dearest may well refer to each other as “pet” but that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable for him to refer to Lizzie, or anyone else who isn’t part of his intimate circle, as “pet”: for example would he address me, the male bus driver, the man fixing his roof, his manly plumber or builder, any party member including for example Cde Buick, the policeman or fireman, the surgeon, the doctor, the headteacher and so on as “pet”. Of course not. He used the term “pet” to patronise and demean Lizzie, perhaps unconsciously, but Bijou once you’re in a hole – honestly, you shouldn’t keep digging.
PaulaThis factual account isn’t showing the party in a good light. It’s difficult to get across the message that we want a society without money, when we have assets of £2.6 million and only 157 voters. I don’t think it’s our wealth that’s the problem, it’s our lack of popular support when compared with our wealth. Have we become a party that gets rich achieving nothing?
As far as I’m concerned, a nation in which the president conscripts its army – as Ukraine does – should not be supported in its war. I don’t care if Russia started it (politics of the playground). As long as workers are made to fight in/shelter from/flee a war they never voted for, it’s not a war that any of us should ever support or take sides in.
In the UK, we’re fed propaganda that Russia is bad because its army is made up of conscripts, mercenaries and prisoners. Yet Ukraine conscripts all the men, who have no choice. They didn’t get visas to flee the country. They are forced to fight. As are their Russian counterparts.
There has never been a war in which the working class had a choice. Can you imagine a scenario where people said “Oh, let’s engage in warfare“.
No-one ever would ever say that, apart from dictators, politicians, capitalists, arms manufacturers and mercenaries. I don’t believe even regular army personnel want to get into war. For good reason.
So long as our leaders/politicians prolong the Ukrainian conflict, the more I will oppose and despise them. For that reason, I hate the leaders of NATO, Russia and Ukraine in equal measure. They are all and equally the enemy.
Paula
Hello Amamater, I don’t know what’s going on with your account or how to fix it. However your message posted to the forum at 17.55 today came through via email and I can see it hasn’t appeared on the actual website for some reason. You have requested that it’s ‘brought back again’ but unfortunately I don’t know how to do that. However here is your post, copied and pasted from the email:
“Almamater wrote:
The case of Donald Trump is similar to the case of Al Capone. If they accuse him of the real crimes that he committed they would be forced to take to court and jail other presidents including Bill Clinton, Barrack Obama , George Bush and Joe Biden and the other ones who are dead already, this legal pleading does not include all the crimes, as well, the impeachment did not include the real crimes. ( they call it the whole kitchen sink ) They just want to remove him because he is the only political challenger against Joe Biden, his popularity has not decreased too much despite all the three indictments, and probably a fourth one is coming pretty soon, and his supporters continue donating money for his legal defense and his political campaign. The black panthers were not so lucky.
This a conflict between sectors of the USA ruling class which does not concern to the USA working class, but as always they convince the worker to intervene in the economics affairs of their own rulers. Military secrets within the capitalist powers have always existed and the Bolsheviks published all the secrets alliance between the capitalist class, one man is in jail and was removed from an embassy ( violating international treaties respected by dictators ) because he published the military secrets of the capitalist class, but Trump and other have taken secretive military documents and they are living like king, but the poor workers that participated in the uprising on January most of them are in prison, even the ones that were taking pictures during that event.
PS Donald Trump said that he can kill a person in park avenue and he would not lose a voter“
Kind regards
PaulaMaybe the Clangers have something to say on the subject!
https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-vote-for-froglet-1974-onlineIt’s my understanding that we stopped using the WSM forum a while back. Which would explain why it has only 10 members left and only 4 messages posted in all of this year (all of which seem to have recently been posted by Almamater under another name). There is absolutely no point in posting on the WSM forum. It’s obsolete. We use this forum now. And Almamater – please don’t swear at Lizzie, it will only cause completely unnecessary discord.
I miss protest music https://youtu.be/S44sovsp7RE
