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This is the Home Office ‘government’ link.
Some links in respect to background about above posting.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/10/bernie-sanders-nevada-harry-reid-474971
It is incomprehensible nonsense that science will constitute anything other than a ‘resource’ in the new society or that specialists will be able to have a position of power in an advanced , post-capitalist society, run by us all, locally, regionally, globally, in administration over resources and which is not a government over people.
Socialism/communism, it means the same in the classical Marxian, pre-Leninist sense, will be an advanced, post-capitalist society, run by us all, locally, regionally, globally, in administration over resources and not a government over people.
It will be a market -free, money -free, production for use (not for sale), free access (not rationed access) commonly owned,(not private, corporate or state-owned) revolutionary permanent break with the present capitalist one.
It has never existed anywhere.
It is not a ‘reformist’ nor a ‘statist’ version of capitalism that retains wage slavery in any form.
It will be the mature, politically conscious task of the immense majority to make it happen and not the minority vanguardist led actions of pseudo-revolutionaries.
“The organising tenet will be from each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs.”
Only a commonly owned production for use society of true social equals to the means of production and distribution can ever do this.
If there are wages and salaries, it is not socialism/communism.
State ownership is not socialism/communism.
Social programs are not socialism/communism.
Socialism/communism means democracy at all levels of society, including the workplace.
Socialism/communism means a wageless, moneyless society.
Socialism/communism means voluntary labour.
Socialism/communism means free access to the goods produced by society.______________________________________________________
” The emancipation of the working classes must be conquered by the working classes themselves. We cannot, therefore, co-operate with people who openly state that the workers are too uneducated to emancipate themselves and must be freed from above by philanthropic big bourgeois and petty-bourgeois.”
(1879 Marx and Engels )
I don’t know. Lew Higgins and Adam Buick did book reviews for this issue but that one is not signed.
Thanks for the reference BD.
We had something to say about Jack common in the Standard of October 1991.
https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1991/1990s/no-1046-october-1991/jack-common-and-working-class-writing/This is a Wikpedia entry about him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_CommonCarl Sagan in “Cosmos” praised the fact that in a simple Penguin Book taken from the shelf and opened, one can be inside the mind of an ancient Roman, or any writer from hundreds of years ago.
This has no value for you?You can also find more, much more, from a Google search. This was not available to me. You have to already know where to look and what to look for .
It took a number of years before I could find an explanation for ‘abolishing the wages system‘ which I heard about at work but was mystified by.
A google search would have comeup with this..but education in both Catholic and Protestant schools is for work.
The fact of some ‘better’ state schools regardless of their religious labels obscures the churning out of ‘specialist’ working class wageslaves with “notions of upperosity” (O’Casey) as some more of them are in the professions or have gone on to university brain washing and regard themselves as middle class.
You don’t half talk a lot of baloney sometimes.
Yes similarly I was introduced to old classics like Dickens and Twain by my grandmother but the Victorian slums were still very much in evidence all around me in the east end of Glasgow.
Count yourselves lucky a Catholic education gave you an historical awareness and a good sound schooling which enabled you to have thought processes which led you to socialism.
That is nonsense by the way.
What ‘eventually’ led me to socialism was oral history at my grandparents knees about the great slaughter of WW1, the Calton weavers and actual personal lived experience as a worker union member, engaged in and trying to make sense of the class struggle and sectarian reinforcement of both catholic and protestent prejudice which undermined the lessons of the class struggle.
Matthew, you seem to have a handle on things.
I presume, since you argue that ‘workers are scientists’, then you’d agree that ‘workers’ should determine ‘science’?Basically because they argue to workers that workers themselves are not needed to build science. Materialist parties don’t require democracy to learn, because they already know. Marx’s conclusion, too.
This is utter crap. Workers are scientists. Scientists are workers.
I’ve never had a Catholic try to convert me. Evangelicals on the other hand …
Oh you are lucky then. Not so long ago if you wanted to marry a Catholic you had receive ‘instruction’ in order to convert, or the marriage would not be recognised in the eyes of the church and children would be bastards.
Bless you TM. The Angelus bells were a signal for such personal devotion as well as cue for an Irish rebel song , “The Foggy Dew”.
I used to do it, a recitation of “An angel of the Lord declared unto Mary and she was conceived by the Holy Ghost”, and then followed by 3 Hail Mary’s.
I am sick to my stomach just thinking about it.
