Ozymandias
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I read some of this TZM book. Pretentious wordy jargonese?
OzymandiasParticipantIt was an ex member of the SPGB who's "Wandering Hands" fucked my life up of from the age of 9 onwards. This kind of minimisation of childhood sexual trauma is common but I was surprised and dismayed to read this article in the Standard. Childhood sexual abuse really ruined my life.
OzymandiasParticipantHi Vin, mate by all means use my lyric. Do what you want with it. Cheers Ray
OzymandiasParticipantListen thanks Vin! I completely agree that nothing encapsulates our argument as well as "Imagine" which is why I kind of wanted to quote it a little at the end of my lyric. I don't think any song comes close to Lennon's supreme effort. Too bad the guy was a bit of an arsehole. I guess that level of fame would warp anyone though!
OzymandiasParticipantFuck! I spent ages typing this out in verses and now it's come out all higglety pigglety
OzymandiasParticipantNotes for a song I’m in the middle of writing. Too preachy maybe? Under the Spreading Chestnut TreeI sold you and you sold me.Oh how they lie, and here lie weUnder the Spreading Chestnut tree.In this society you seeWe are divided…You and MeAnd while they tell us “We are Free”Our hatred is their Secret Key(Key Change)Oh come a day we’ll realiseThe power we have, how great the prizeWe slaves begin to organiseTo sweep away the power, the lies No leaders meant to represent No princes, Popes or Presidents The end of Cash, the end of rent The end of war and the 1% (Back to original key) But surely we can’t run the show? We’re greedy, selfish, dumb too slow Its Human Nature don’t you know! Our masters like to tell us so Fuck Lenin, Stalin…Hitler too How Socialistic were this crew? John Lennon had a better view Imagining his dream comes true Imagining his dream comes true Imagining his dream comes true Etc
OzymandiasParticipantYeah yeah
OzymandiasParticipantWe are doubly fucked then!
OzymandiasParticipantObviously the guy making the video is just inviting us to laugh along with him at how utterly stupid the majority of US workers are. I actually think the Internet is making workers more and more dense. Not the other way round. This along with online porn, football, gadgets, daily rags, shit on telly, faecesbook, celebrity twitter tattle, mind numbing movies, religion and video games. Dished up to appeal to the addictive side of human behaviour. Workers minds are dormant. They are now more stupid than they've ever been in history. I believe this.Its cool to be stupid now especially among young workers. They are trying to "out-stupid" each other. Just look at any docu-soap on telly about young proles on holiday or at the workplace. Total cretins. It's all a product of the concerted effort by our masters to radically dumb down the whole of society in the past 30 years. The proles are lapping it up. The dullard donkeys love being slaves. I detest them. Shoot me down if you like. I don't give a fuck.A Socialist Revolution? Never in a million years. It's about as likely as the 2nd coming. The masters will be in power forever…or at least until they blow the planet up to fuck or let it roast in an irriversable environmental catastrophe. "Humanity" is just a horrible virus polluting this Earth and Capitalism is its face. The planet will eventually get rid of us in its own way.
OzymandiasParticipant"Thinking would be a new experience for them". Couldn't have put it better myself. Stupid bastards. Honestly what chance do we have? This "civilisation" is fucked.
OzymandiasParticipantDepressing as fuck.
OzymandiasParticipantI agree. He or Yoko cannot have come to these conclusions without first having come into contact with SPGB literature. How could this be possible otherwise? Obviously there was no Internet in those days and I believe there was a reprint of QOTD in 1969 or thereabouts. Can you imagine what a boon it would be if somehow this was rumour was corroborated. What a perfect calling card for introduction to the Capitalist Yoko Ono. "Dear Ms Ono. Remember us? We wrote the pamphlet which might have influenced one of the greatest songs ever written". Preposterous idea…or is it?
OzymandiasParticipantYears ago I'm sure I heard a party member say that Lennon got hold of a copy of "Questions of the Day" and this was the inspiration for "Imagine". Is this complete shite?
OzymandiasParticipantYes it's a great shame. Vic Vanni is a master Socialist.
OzymandiasParticipantI once bought a couple of numbers of "World Revolution" when I was a student in London. I thought I looked kind of cool reading them on the Victoria line. That was about it. I wrote to Vic Vanni in Glasgow at the time asking his opinion of them. Like me he wasn't impressed. Vic soon exposed them in his written reply to me. Why do these people over-complicate things and get themselves tied up in stupid knots?
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