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ALB – alanjjohnstone wrote: I'm no doubt the Private Frazer of the party, full of doom and gloom,

 "A German study last month revealed that older adults who held a dim view of their futures lived longer and healthier lives than those who had rosy outlooks."  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/feeling-down-you-should-consider-the-benefits-of-pessimism/article10098340/

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LBird wrote:

robbo203 wrote:

You do talk a load of tosh at times LBird, as well completely evading my central point…

And talking to you is like trying to reason with a particularly dense boss, robbo.The 'central point' of a thread about so-called 'materialism' is that Marx wasn't a 'materialist', but an 'idealist-materialist', not your individualist incomprehension about workers' power, collective action, and democracy.And, by god, my 'cheap and empty smears about "elite experts" '… you won't have a bad word said about the bosses' ideologists, will you, robbo?Stop tugging your forelock, loser.It's a shame that the thread has taken the usual turn, where the so-called 'materialists', when confronted with texts written by Marx, always resort to personal abuse, about my 'idiotic, kneejerk'… errr…. evidence.And when I return to insults in kind, the dickheads come out of the sun in squadrons, complaining about my behaviour.I can feel yet another ban coming on… to keep the site safe from critical thought, and safe for the Religious Materialists, like robbo, who won't have workers' democracy in truth production.

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jondwhite wrote:

imposs1904 wrote:

Fair enough if there isn't enough room in the Standard for inclusion of the results – though I note some months the Standard will have the occasional page that is covered with about 75% image  – but I do think the results should be readily accessible on the Party website.And when I write 'readily accessible' I don't mean included in a comment on a thread on the discussion forum. 

hear hear

Don't just sit on your suggestion PM Admin and make it a reality!

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John Oswald wrote:

Could I extend the scope of this thread to include the materialism of Sade`s contemporaries and ourselves too – in honour to Sade and the other materialists who laid the ground for Marx and Engels to later develop?

So long as the "scope" maintains a connection to the title of this thread it wont be in breach of the guidelines and rules.

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John Oswald wrote:

Why would the Party refuse to stock it, when they stock non-Party publications (or at least one such)?

Just my view from what I read of the review at:   https://libcom.org/library/beasts-of-burden-undercurrent-8However, the Publications Committee might arrive at a different conclusion to myself.  I'll contact them to see what they come up with.  

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John Oswald wrote:

Is this the BEASTS OF BURDEN text you gave a link to?http://www.tierrechtsgruppe-zh.ch/wp-content/files/beasts_of_burden_capitalism_animals_communism.pdf

That's it.

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alanjjohnstone wrote:

Overlooking the bad satire and humour ,  this 20 min. video exposes another side of the animal industry…chicken-farmers (the term isn't actually chicken-farmer…but chicken-grower), being exploited by the food industry…treated like dirt-poor share-croppers by the corporaations…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wHzt6gBgI

Not available in the UK

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John Oswald wrote:

Might I suggest the Party add the non-Party anonymous booklet BEASTS OF BURDEN to its shop? Available from AK Press and other anarchist outlets, I see nothing in it to contradict the Party`s case for Socialism, nor do I see anything wrong in the pamphlet`s analysis of socialism as a moneyless, classless world society.

After reading a rather long review here:  https://libcom.org/library/beasts-of-burden-undercurrent-8I doubt if the party would stock it.  Nevertheless, a link to the actual pamphlet would be appreciated.Got it:  http://www.oocities.org/capitolhill/lobby/3909/beasts/beast2.html

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Vin wrote:

LBird wrote:

If by 'material' is meant "ideas and nature", then it should be clearly said that one means 'ideal-material', and not 'material'.

Only if you are an idealist and believe that the realm of ideas has a mystical existence outside of the material world. 

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