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August 19, 2016 at 4:40 pm in reply to: Moderators decision on Cde. Maratty’s indefinite forum ban #121255moderator1ParticipantTim Kilgallon wrote:Would you accept that he has therefore met the requirements put forward by the three Mods?YFSTim
"After full consultation the moderators decided, Cde Vin Maratty be informed:The indefinite suspension stays in place until further notice from the EC for it to be rescinded. We advise he follows the appropriate procedure and makes a formal appeal to the EC for the ban to be rescinded. Cde V Maratty should take the initiative himself of seeking redress from the EC and present his case so to ensure it contains a sincere contrition for past conduct"Has cde Maratty taken the initative and engaged with the appeals process? Not to my knowledge. Until he does that any consideration on "apologies" are irrelevant.
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August 17, 2016 at 12:49 pm in reply to: Posts removed from ‘Should moderators take part in sebates?’ #121230moderator1ParticipantWed, 17/08/2016 – 3:22am#30lindanesocialistOfflineJoined:28/03/2016Send PM Vin saidAlan, the respect I have for you and SP and what you have both said to me I must admit I am in the wrong and I will give up the chase.
August 17, 2016 at 12:42 pm in reply to: Posts removed from ‘Should moderators take part in sebates?’ #121229moderator1ParticipantWed, 17/08/2016 – 2:47am#28lindanesocialistOfflineJoined:28/03/2016Send PM vin said Alan I know you are on here. Give an open opinion on my status. I have a great deal of respect for you. you do not believe a member should have a lifetime ban. Please reassure me.
August 17, 2016 at 12:37 pm in reply to: Posts removed from ‘Should moderators take part in sebates?’ #121228moderator1ParticipantWed, 17/08/2016 – 1:33am#26lindanesocialistOfflineJoined:28/03/2016Send PM alanjjohnstone wrote: Mod 2 using personal account since i can't be arsed at this time of the morning with sleep encrusted eyes to change my account Vin saidHold the meeting tomorrow then, no rush. I can attend
August 17, 2016 at 12:31 pm in reply to: Posts removed from ‘Should moderators take part in sebates?’ #121227moderator1ParticipantWed, 17/08/2016 – 12:58am#24alanjjohnstoneOfflineJoined:22/06/2011Send PM Yeah, it is at my house…just get a bus to Manchester airport, grab a plane, fly to Bangkok, get a train to Surin, and then hire a tuk-tuk for the final stretch …just take you about 48 hours of constant travelling and about 1000 pounds in fares…Sorry for the facetious reply but you know full well that it is an e-mail exchange we are conducting. And to be fully engaged in it, i think it best you are not privy to the proceedings, it permits the moderators to be fully frank with one another…just as you would not be permitted into a jury room if you were on trial…If you consider that a sinister development, so be it. Mod 2 using personal account since i can't be arsed at this time of the morning with sleep encrusted eyes to change my account"I have no country to fight for; my country is the Earth, and I am a citizen of the World." – Eugene V. Debs
August 17, 2016 at 12:27 pm in reply to: Posts removed from ‘Should moderators take part in sebates?’ #121226moderator1ParticipantTue, 16/08/2016 – 11:39pm#23lindanesocialistOfflineJoined:28/03/2016Send PM moderator2 wrote: Mod2- You have waited this long and since you have now asked a direct question of us, you will get an answer…in due course. Where and when will this be discussed ? I would like to attend As all meetings of the socialist party are open to the public or is this one secret
August 17, 2016 at 12:23 pm in reply to: Posts removed from ‘Should moderators take part in sebates?’ #121225moderator1ParticipantTue, 16/08/2016 – 2:08pm#21SocialistPunkOfflineJoined:17/08/2012Send PM Surely if Vin wishes to be reinstated on the Party discussion lists, he must now appeal to the EC?Does Vin wish to be reinstated?
August 17, 2016 at 12:19 pm in reply to: Posts removed from ‘Should moderators take part in sebates?’ #121224moderator1ParticipantTue, 16/08/2016 – 1:59pm#20lindanesocialistOfflineJoined:28/03/2016Send PM SocialistPunk wrote: The issue of Vin's indefinite suspension was set in motion before my joining the IC and is now in the hands of the EC. So what my views are, have no bearing on my role as a moderator.I don't see the relevance of the suspension with Vin being a Party member. There does not exist a separate set of rules, on this forum, for non party members and Party members. As a member of the IC you have a say – a vote – on who remains or is suspended. I merely ask for the records: Are you in favour of Vin's permament ban from all party forums?Brian has clearly stated his view and it is a matter of record and posterity that he has completely silenced another member. Do you support this as a member of the Internet Committee?
August 17, 2016 at 10:38 am in reply to: Posts removed from ‘Should moderators take part in sebates?’ #121223moderator1ParticipantTue, 16/08/2016 – 1:40pm#19SocialistPunkOfflineJoined:17/08/2012Send PM lindanesocialist wrote: moderator1 wrote: lindanesocialistwrote: Who are the three moderators. Are they on the IC and do they agree with the Vin's (SPGB member) permament ban from party forums, lists ? Stephen Davison, Brian Johnson (myself) and Alan Johnstone are the three moderators and yes we are all on the IC as per terms of reference. As for Vin's permanent ban I know I'm in favour of it and so it seems are the EC according to the last minutes. As members of the EC do not attend this forum it will be interesting to find out what they base their decision on. SP and AJ. Are you in favour of a permanent ban from all party forums for Vin? The issue of Vin's indefinite suspension was set in motion before my joining the IC and is now in the hands of the EC. So what my views are, have no bearing on my role as a moderator.I don't see the relevance of the suspension with Vin being a Party member. There does not exist a separate set of rules, on this forum, for non party members and Party members.
August 17, 2016 at 10:35 am in reply to: Posts removed from ‘Should moderators take part in sebates?’ #121222moderator1ParticipantMon, 15/08/2016 – 11:37pm#17lindanesocialistOfflineJoined:28/03/2016Send PM moderator1 wrote: As for Vin's permanent ban I know I'm in favour of it and so it seems are the EC according to the last minutes. I can't find reference to this in the EC Minutes. I would appreciate a reference. Or withdraw your statement
August 17, 2016 at 10:33 am in reply to: Posts removed from ‘Should moderators take part in sebates?’ #121221moderator1ParticipantMon, 15/08/2016 – 10:30pm#16lindanesocialistOfflineJoined:28/03/2016Send PM moderator1 wrote: lindanesocialist wrote: Who are the three moderators. Are they on the IC and do they agree with the Vin's (SPGB member) permament ban from party forums, lists ? Stephen Davison, Brian Johnson (myself) and Alan Johnstone are the three moderators and yes we are all on the IC as per terms of reference. As for Vin's permanent ban I know I'm in favour of it and so it seems are the EC according to the last minutes. As members of the EC do not attend this forum it will be interesting to find out what they base their decision on. SP and AJ. Are you in favour of a permanent ban from all party forums for Vin?
moderator1Participantlindanesocialist wrote:moderator1 wrote:As for Vin's permanent ban I know I'm in favour of it and so it seems are the EC according to the last minutes.I can't find reference to this in the EC Minutes. I would appreciate a reference. Or withdraw your statement
(6) Internet Committee Report (26th March Item 3.)No further action necessary. Item to be removed from the agenda.This report from the IC contained a reference to Vin's permanent ban. Therefore I'm presuming with no comment from the EC they agree with this action.
moderator1Participantlindanesocialist wrote:Who are the three moderators. Are they on the IC and do they agree with the Vin's (SPGB member) permament ban from party forums, lists ?Stephen Davison, Brian Johnson (myself) and Alan Johnstone are the three moderators and yes we are all on the IC as per terms of reference. As for Vin's permanent ban I know I'm in favour of it and so it seems are the EC according to the last minutes.
July 31, 2016 at 7:48 pm in reply to: the difference between Marxism and original communist theory/ideology #120713moderator1ParticipantReminder: 7. You are free to express your views candidly and forcefully provided you remain civil. Do not use the forums to send abuse, threats, personal insults or attacks, or purposely inflammatory remarks (trolling). Do not respond to such messages.
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