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Young Master Smeet wrote:All of which is why I reckon that placing a member of the forum on pre-moderated is a better way forward than banning, we should investigate that option.
That particular option was considered and rejected when the forum moderation was reviewed 3 years ago.
Would users please note the moderators decided to remove #73,73&75 to the Off-topic section. After due consideration it was decided that though these posts breached Rule 7. because they were minor infringements of this rule it was further decided rather than suspend Lindasocialist and issue a warning to gnome it was good practice to remove these particular posts to the Off-topic section.
Sun, 16/10/2016 – 8:53pm#75lindanesocialistOfflineJoined:28/03/2016Send PM With regard to post #73. Thanks for the clarification Gnome. A misunderstanding. I thought I had heard the word VINdictive elswhere and made an error. I don't think that Fraser is 'dropthebomb' and I unreservedly apologise to Fraser for the implication.Dropthebomb is a troll and I know Fraser wouldn't act in this manner.But someone is and whoever it is has a bee under his/her bonnet about Vin.This needs bringing to an end, so we can move on Topreport editdeletequotereply
Sun, 16/10/2016 – 7:47pm#74gnomeOfflineJoined:14/10/2011Send PM lindanesocialist wrote: Dropthebomb wrote: Why aye, Vin ( short for ' vindictive' ).Too right. I don't know what Vin has to do with this discussion, obviously Dropthebomb is a little obsessed with him.Dropthebomb is not a member of Socialist Studies. It is clear that he is a member of the SPGB. The first and ony person to say 'Vin' was short for 'Vindictive' was Fraser Anderson on Spintcom in reply to me On 25 September 2016 at 19:22, Fraser Anderson f_raz_1@… [SPINTCOM] <SPINTCOM@yahoogroups.com>wrote: "stop being so VINdictive…"No idea what you mean here comrade.If there is a breach we should correct it. End of story. You've got it all wrong, Linda. I was the one who made that comment…. to Fraser in response to something he'd said about Vin. Fraser then replied, "no idea what you mean here comrade…" It was intended to be a joke. Clearly it backfired.Let's now try to draw a line under this paranoid shit.Topreport editdeletequotereply
Reminder: 1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.
Reminder: 7. You are free to express your views candidly and forcefully provided you remain civil. Do not use the forums to send abuse, threats, personal insults or attacks, or purposely inflammatory remarks (trolling). Do not respond to such messages.
Reminder: 1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.
robbo203 wrote:moderator1 wrote:Reminder: 6. Do not make repeated postings of the same or similar messages to the same thread, or to multiple threads or forums (‘cross-posting’). Do not make multiple postings within a thread that could be consolidated into a single post (‘serial posting’). Do not post an excessive number of threads, posts, or private messages within a limited period of time (‘flooding’).Sorry Mod1 My duplicate posting in response to Matt was a technical cockup. Im not quite sure how it happened and I dont know how to delete my post once it is written. Thanks for deleting it anyway….
The reminder was not posted in reference to your duplicate post. No breach of the rules there I'm glad to say. The reminder was for a certain person who thought they had an opportunity to ride their favourite hobby horse.I will allow one bite at the cherry per thread, but after you resonded with a rebuttal that door is now firmly locked.
Reminder: 6. Do not make repeated postings of the same or similar messages to the same thread, or to multiple threads or forums (‘cross-posting’). Do not make multiple postings within a thread that could be consolidated into a single post (‘serial posting’). Do not post an excessive number of threads, posts, or private messages within a limited period of time (‘flooding’).
moderator2 wrote:Quote:Even if I was to accept (which I don't) that the spirit of that resolution should be applied to this forumWell, i do. Please officially lodge your protest and your request for my removal as a maverick moderator. Miss out the IC – complain directly to the EC I for one have gone out of my way to exercise tolerance and be lenient of Cde. Maratty's forum behaviour since which now stretches back years.Sadly, Cde. MColme's knowledge of the situation as he admitted is limited to reading posts on one thread. He is unaware of the very long history that is involved, going back literally years. Sadly, action was taken against Lindanesocialist only today (or was it her, for it takes no Sherlock Holmes to deduce who is really at the keyboard when her posts appear? Another clear sign of our willingness to compromise that goes unacknowledged) after two requests to follow common sense behaviour on where to post messages was simply ignored and defied.We are not dealing with isolated occasional infringements but a well-trod path of repeated misdemeanours which culminated in an indefinite suspension.Each new day and each new post from Cde. Maratty is re-confirming the correctness of the moderators' caution in not restoring his posting rights. You want to know how the vote went?I was in favour of lifting the ban regardless of the sensibilities among other members being upset by that decision. I was out-voted. Today, that moderator vote would be unanimous.As i said to Cde. Maratty in a PM he has never extolled confidence in me that he would change his spots. And that has exactly been the situation. He had an opportunity that if he accepted our decision in a comradely manner as it was issued that outcome would have probably been reversed. But that was not to be, and it was not through moderators actions but Cde. Vin's own reluctance to appeal to the EC and yes…to be genuinely show regret and remorseful for previous actions, admitting a role in causing the dispute. But for yourself, you'd rather indulge in some theocratic semantics about one word i used. I do not kindly take to being called a cowardly bullshitter and having the integrity and sincerity of my moderating doubted. You may well consider such invective as acceptable from a fellow member but to return to my opening remark – i don't consider it comradely in the slightest and don't expect such accusations to be made against me or any other member of the Party..i can only talk for myself, but my patience is being tested and i am coming to the end of my tether and quite frankly if you want my job as moderator, you are very welcome to volunteer for it….but i very much doubt you will…As a parting piece of information i recommended Cde. Maratty to be given the admin of an inactive media blogspot so he could continue his interest and involvement with videos.More fool me, eh?
5 day suspension7. You are free to express your views candidly and forcefully provided you remain civil. Do not use the forums to send abuse, threats, personal insults or attacks, or purposely inflammatory remarks (trolling). Do not respond to such messages.Cde. Johnstone, regretfully stepped across the line in recent posts by indulging in some unnecessary goading of fellow forum users. He is accountable as any other member of the forum for breaching its guidelines. Thus, his co-moderators have imposed a 5-day suspension without the customary warnings upon Cde. Johnstone, who is a frequent and almost daily contributor to the forum. He accepts the reasoning for this decision by his fellow moderators, any holds no ill-will against them and has no intention of challenging his co-moderators actions
lindanesocialist wrote:moderator1 wrote:Cde Vin Maratty was suspended on the forum for breaching 3 rules in one single message on the 3rd March 2016. Previous to that suspension he had been suspended for breaching the rules on numerous occasions. Around the same date he also got suspended on SPINTCom and SPopen for abusive behaviour to one of the moderators.Please keep this in perspective:The numerous warnings and suspensions were issued by the same moderator with an axe to grind, MOD 1 and were mainly for questioning moderators decisions, which people are now freely engaged in. The 'abusive behaviour' refers to ONE comment said at the spur of the moment and in frustration 'your acting like a little Hitler' to which Vin immediatly apologised. Vin has been called a lot worse but no one received a single warning As has been previously suggestted, for the sake of basic fairness, MOD1 should step aside on this issueNBVin is against unmoderated forums as he has pointed out on many occassion.
3rd and final warning. I shall be PM'ing this user to remind them that if any further breaches of the rules occur they will automatically be suspended for an indefinite period.7. You are free to express your views candidly and forcefully provided you remain civil. Do not use the forums to send abuse, threats, personal insults or attacks, or purposely inflammatory remarks (trolling). Do not respond to such messages.14. Rule enforcement is the responsibility of the moderators, not of the contributors. If you believe a post or private message violates a rule, report it to the moderators. Do not take it upon yourself to chastise others for perceived violations of the rules.
mcolome1 wrote:What has he done to be suspended indefinite ?Cde Vin Maratty was suspended on the forum for breaching 3 rules in one single message on the 3rd March 2016. Previous to that suspension he had been suspended for breaching the rules on numerous occasions. Around the same date he also got suspended on SPINTCom and SPopen for abusive behaviour to one of the moderators.The Internet Committee passed both suspensions to the EC for them to deal with in April 2016. The EC held off reaching a decision until cde Maratty made an appeal against the indefinite suspensions. Having made an appeal to the EC in September this appeal was discussed at their last meeting. Until the EC minutes are published we wont know the result of the appeal. In the meantime the suspension stays in place.Note that cde Maratty never made an appeal to the IC. However, after 5 months he did ask the moderators to "reconsider" his suspension. We advised him to make an appeal to the EC which he then did.
lindanesocialist wrote:'The philosophers have already interpreted the world'. Stop wasting your time on this. I can't believe the party is still stuck with Berkeley.Workers are starving, unemployed, homeless and landless. Reach out to them, me , us . The idealists are the past, we have our material conditions and interests to deal with. Shelter, food, clothes etc etc. LBird is a troll and a time wasterIf you are not arguing pointlessly with LBird, you are attacking and suspending members trying to connect with the real issues that concern the working class Make this a workers forum and we might move forward.3rd and final warning: 7. You are free to express your views candidly and forcefully provided you remain civil. Do not use the forums to send abuse, threats, personal insults or attacks, or purposely inflammatory remarks (trolling). Do not respond to such messages.
