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gnome wrote:moderator1 wrote:twc wrote:Perhaps moderator1 might kindly change “lure and wage war against” into “wage war against”in post #116?
You should have PMed this request under the rules. Your unfortunate mistake was referred to in #118 so any changes to your content in #116 would amount to changing the historical record. Which under the 'Moderators guidelines and rules' is prohibited.
What another load of baloney. A genuine mistake was made so why on earth can't twc's post be amended accordingly? It strikes me that these so-called 'moderators guidelines and rules' are either being made up on the hoof or, if this particular 'rule' actually exists, is not fit for purpose.
If I had carried out the delition #118 and the subsequent conversation arising from the mistake would not have made any sense for the mistake would have mysteriously disappeared from the original text.
twc wrote:Perhaps moderator1 might kindly change “lure and wage war against” into “wage war against”in post #116?You should have PMed this request under the rules. Your unfortunate mistake was referred to in #118 so any changes to your content in #116 would amount to changing the historical record. Which under the 'Moderators guidelines and rules' is prohibited.
Tim Kilgallon wrote:moderator1 wrote:Reminder: 14. Rule enforcement is the responsibility of the moderators, not of the contributors. If you believe a post or private message violates a rule, report it to the moderators. Do not take it upon yourself to chastise others for perceived violations of the rules.Hi Mod 1I'm not sure if the above post refers to me, however, just to be ABSOLUTELY CLEAR Mod 1 I did not take "responsibility" for rule enforcement, Nor did I state that I believed that any post violated any rule. Similarly I did not "chastise" anyone for anything. (I gave up chastising when I left the Catholic Church). I also want to make it clear that I'm not questioning a moderation decision, merely expressing surprise. I assume it is within the rules of the forum to be surprised. life would be very dull without surprises.
Just to be absolutely clear. A reminder is not directed at an individual user but at all users.
Reminder: 7. You are free to express your views candidly and forcefully provided you remain civil. Do not use the forums to send abuse, threats, personal insults or attacks, or purposely inflammatory remarks (trolling). Do not respond to such messages.
Reminder: 14. Rule enforcement is the responsibility of the moderators, not of the contributors. If you believe a post or private message violates a rule, report it to the moderators. Do not take it upon yourself to chastise others for perceived violations of the rules.
Reminder: Rule 3. Do not use the forums to send spam, advertisements, charitable appeals, solicitations, or other messages primarily intended to promote a particular product, service, campaign, website, organisation, venture, or event, unless it is relevant to the SPGB or its companion parties, without first obtaining permission from the moderators.6. Do not make repeated postings of the same or similar messages to the same thread, or to multiple threads or forums (‘cross-posting’). Do not make multiple postings within a thread that could be consolidated into a single post (‘serial posting’). Do not post an excessive number of threads, posts, or private messages within a limited period of time (‘flooding’).
J Surman wrote:Well, I'm still laughing – and it feels good!I'm confused, upset and slightly disturbed that there's no mention of the issue and problems of copyright.
lindanesocialist wrote:moderator1 wrote:The time and place for discussing the "democratic control of party meetings and committees" is on the party mailing lists SPINTCOM and not here on the forum. The forum is for the public discussion of questions relevant to socialism.Who said so? Are you talking with your Mod hat on?Is this a Warning?Where has it been decided that discussion of party democracy and democratic control is prohibited on this website? And when was it decided that the democratic nature of the Socialist Party is not a 'question relevant to socialism'?
The setting up of the party mailing lists was approved by conference.Yes I'm talking with my moderator hat on.No it's not a warning.There's no prohibition on the discussion of party democracy and democratic control on the forum.It has never been an issue that the democratic nature of the Socialist Party is always a question relevant to socialism.However, to make myself clear: despite the fact that party business is indirectly discussed on the forum, the forum is not part of the decision making process for party business. For that party members need to post to SPINCOM, approach the EC or a branch, make representation to Conference with a written resolution.
lindanesocialist wrote:Young Master Smeet wrote:Hear, hear. I come to this forum to read about socialism and discuss socialist ideas,Lol. Is this supposed to be serious or are you pulling my leg. Infantile crap?Science for Socialists? Free sex in socialism? Advertisements for post cards. More important than democratic control of party meetings and committees?
The time and place for discussing the "democratic control of party meetings and committees" is on the party mailing lists SPINTCOM and not here on the forum. The forum is for the public discussion of questions relevant to socialism.
Tim Kilgallon wrote:moderator3 wrote:Obviously some users fail to grasp the reason the rules encourage us to contact the moderators regarding moderation decisions.The idea behind contacting the moderators off thread, regarding moderation decisions, is to allow a dsicussion to take place between moderator and forum user, that doesn't clog up the thread.Actually, let's be honest, the rules don't "encourage" us to contact moderators re moderation decisions, they forbid us from certain actions with regards to Moderation decisions.With regards to clogging up threads, it has been suggested on several occasions, that I am aware of, that a moderation discussion thread be started Such a thread would allow free discussion of moderation decisions, and stop the clogging up of threads. This suggestion has been turned down by Mods in the past, but to me would seem to be an easy way to resolve a very tricky problem.
Has everybody forgoten that a thread already exists for the discussion of moderation matters? It's called 'Moderation suggestions' http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/website-technical/moderation-suggestions which was specifically set up to discuss the very issues now under consideration in the open and transparent to all users..The PM function is there for good reason:It allows users to conduct a private conversation away from the forum. Much like a telephone conversation.It allows the main forum to be focused on conversations relating to socialism rather than clogging up the main forum with discussion on the: deliberations of the moderators; complaints; private suggestions on moderation; and subjects which are irrevelant to the main forum.In essence, on the forum, there are available two separate methods for having a conversation on any subject: Public via the link above and private via the PM function.
reminder: 14. Rule enforcement is the responsibility of the moderators, not of the contributors. If you believe a post or private message violates a rule, report it to the moderators. Do not take it upon yourself to chastise others for perceived violations of the rules.
Steve-SanFrancisco-UserExperienceResearchSpecialist wrote:Tim Kilgallon wrote:If I could enact any law, I'd ban surveys and fuckin postcards as wellI have written that law for you and have a plan to enact it. Of course I made a postcard to get the news out and get support to pass the law. Here's what it says on the postcard I made for you. . . https://docs.google.com/document/d/12N92wl74vQathQT1hJmNkJsl_DsKrdU7XrO_O66ZH8o/edit#heading=h.3w86cm3wtzd6for your convenince the postcard desgin at the link above (wich looks nicer because you can format text in a google doc better than in this discussion forum) is copied here below. . .
We can stop junk mail and surveys that waste your time. We have a plan to stop it for good. Our political mailer philosophy is to prove we value your time and information by giving you 5 minutes of our time for reading this and completing a survey telling us how you want us to spend 5 minutes. It’s that easy to stop junk mail. We are going to make sure that junk mail solicitors value your time equal to their own like we do. We want you to vote YES on “Public Good for Public Time in Mailers Law”. Once enacted, every time consuming non-profit survey or mailer will have to give you an equal or greater amount of time for every minute of your time that they take! Imagine if every political mailer you received came with a 5 minute favor for your use? You could collect favors from that pile of political mailers on your coffee table and turn them into a new tree planted in the forest or on your sidewalk! Wouldn’t that be a better world? If you want to help more, we have other projects you can donate your 5 minutes towards like, “what if EVERY bank statement you received in your mailbox came with a 15 minute favor of your choice?” Well, I’m getting ahead of myself, but if you like the idea, then join our brainstorming branch and upvote it for more attention and time resources. make a suggestion, or vote to encourage our next choice for legislative action for the people, of the people, and by the people. This message was endorsed by and time data verified by a generous donation of time from the world socialist of Great Britain. Join with us to help stop junk mail.
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Reminder: Rule 3. Do not use the forums to send spam, advertisements, charitable appeals, solicitations, or other messages primarily intended to promote a particular product, service, campaign, website, organisation, venture, or event, unless it is relevant to the SPGB or its companion parties, without first obtaining permission from the moderators. Rule 6. Do not make repeated postings of the same or similar messages to the same thread, or to multiple threads or forums (‘cross-posting’). Do not make multiple postings within a thread that could be consolidated into a single post (‘serial posting’). Do not post an excessive number of threads, posts, or private messages within a limited period of time (‘flooding’).
Reminder: 1. The general topic of each forum is given by the posted forum description. Do not start a thread in a forum unless it matches the given topic, and do not derail existing threads with off-topic posts.6. Do not make repeated postings of the same or similar messages to the same thread, or to multiple threads or forums (‘cross-posting’). Do not make multiple postings within a thread that could be consolidated into a single post (‘serial posting’). Do not post an excessive number of threads, posts, or private messages within a limited period of time (‘flooding’).
gnome wrote:And I would like to know what the procedure is for removing spam off this forum? It is now 12 hours since this item appeared in the off-topic sub-forum but the three moderators and admin seem blissfully unaware…http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/topic/heres-how-presidential-candidates-eat-sleep-and-work-out#comment-35881Thanks for that. Post deleted.
