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Thanks for the very interesting historical information, ALB.
MooParticipant– ALB
I’m confused. Wasn’t Ukraine part of the USSR at that time?
MooParticipantThe Left believe that weak countries which defy imperialism from the powerful ones are doing so because they want to help their people. The reality is they want to support their OWN capitalist class at the expense of the capitalist class of the powerful, imperialist country.
MooParticipantFair enough. Another reason to get rid of capitalism: copyright laws!
MooParticipantThere’s nothing make-believe about social ownership and social control for social purposes (i.e. social-ism).
To which group of Leninists to you belong, Lizzie?
MooParticipant– Young Master Smeet
What you wrote about Geordies is so offensive, I can’t believe it was written by a fellow socialist!
MooParticipantThe Left are no better. They believe Russia & China are justifiably(!) defending their ‘back-gardens’ from U.S dominance.
MooParticipantCheers. 🙂
MooParticipant‘When Russia first invaded Ukraine two cities negotiated to allow the Russian army to take over without armed resistance – Kherson on the Black Sea coast and Kupiansk near Kharkov and the border with Russia. This saved the places from destruction and their population from being killed in any crossfire and was obviously the sensible thing for the local authorities to have done.
‘But it wasn’t to last. Last year the Ukrainian nationalists recaptured Kupiansk and later the Russian army withdrew from Kherson. They were “liberated” but were now in the front line and both have since been bombarded and large parts of them reduced to ruins.’
ALB, may I use this quote in a letter I’m currently writing in response to the below Ukrainian nationalist article in the Frome Times?
http://www.frometimes.co.uk/2023/08/30/frome-honours-ukrainian-independence-day/
MooParticipantDJP, I didn’t mean literal fighting. I meant trying to persuade the workers of the world to become socialists.
The way I see it is: if the world socialist revolution was meant to happen, then it will, but if it wasn’t, then it won’t.
All we in the World Socialist Movement can do is help it arrive sooner, rather than later.
MooParticipant‘Not. Going. To. Happen.’
It doesn’t matter whether or not it WILL happen. The point is it COULD happen. Also, capitalism cannot be reformed to be eco-friendly or work in the interests of the exploited class. So, we will never stop fighting for the kind of society John Lennon described in his song: Imagine.
MooParticipantRecently PBS America broadcast a great two part documentary called: ‘Europe’s Forgotten Dictatorships’.
Part one is about the regime of the colonels in Greece; while part two is about fascist Portugal.
This documentary disproves the claim that the Allies in WW2 were anti-fascism. This is because Portugal; Greece; and Spain (while they were right-wing dictatorships) were close allies of the West during the Cold War.
MooParticipantThe one about mosquitoes is a legitimate complaint. I would be cheesed off if I were visiting a holiday destination that had a mosquito problem, and there was no warning in the brochure.
MooParticipantWhat’s the Colour of Money? by Hollywood Beyond
LYRICS:
Dull my senses
Steal my pride
Principles denied
Passion faked and sold to the anthem green and gold.
Colour of the virtue by working like a slave
More precious than life itself
What’s the colour tempting fate?
What’s the colour of money?
What’s the colour of money?
Don’t tell me that you think it’s green
Me, I know it’s red.
What’s the colour of money?
What’s the colour of money?
Don’t tell me that you think it’s green
Me, I know it’s red!
Dull my senses
Steal my pride
Principles denied
Passion faked and sold to the anthem green and gold.
What was a useful tool
Has taken our control
It takes away your hearts and wraps it up around your soul.
What’s the colour of money?
What’s the colour of money?
Don’t tell me that you think it’s green,
Me, I know it’s red
What’s the colour of money?
What’s the colour of money?
Don’t tell me that you think it’s green,
Me, I know it’s red
What’s the colour of money?
What’s the colour of money?
I know it’s red
I know it’s red
Dull my senses
Steal my pride
Principles denied
Passion faked and sold to the anthem green and gold.
Colour of the virtue by working like a slave
More precious than life itself
Familiarity breeds contempt.
What’s the colour of money?
What’s the colour of money?
Don’t tell me that you think it’s green,
Me, I know it’s red
What’s the colour of money?
What’s the colour of money?
Don’t tell me that you think it’s green,
Me, I know it’s redMooParticipantWe (i.e. the Socialist Party) have nothing against trade unions fighting to defend/improve their real wages & working conditions. To paraphrase Karl Marx: Trade unionism puts the breaks on workers’ exploitation, but doesn’t stop it.
We would just prefer it if the majority of workers became socialists and organised for socialism.
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