Lizzie45
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I have no idea what that means
And I’ve no idea who’s saying what in that jumbled-up post.
Why can’t posters use BBCodes or other means of distinguishing between quoted text and their responses – it’s not rocket science!
Israel Reopens the Gaza Slaughterhouse
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/israel-reopens-the-gaza-slaughterhouse
In other words, from the river to the pre-1967 border between Israel and Jordan (the West Bank has only been ruled and its population politically oppressed by Israel since 1967, ie 56 not 75 years
I bet the Palestinians will be delighted to hear that! But I’m not just referring to the West Bank but to Gaza as a whole.
There has been a consistent pattern to Israel’s behaviour since its creation 75 years ago – just as there has been a consistent pattern to the “see no evil, hear no evil” response of western powers.
In 1948, in events the Palestinians call their “Nakba”, or Catastrophe, 80 percent of Palestinians were ethnically cleansed from their lands in what became the self-declared Jewish state of Israel.
As Palestinians maintained at the time – and Israeli historians later confirmed from archival documents – Israel’s leaders lied when they said Palestinians had fled of their own volition, on the orders of neighbouring Arab states.
As the historians also discovered, Israeli leaders lied when they claimed that they had pleaded, first, with the 900,000 Palestinians inside the new state’s borders to stay and, later, with the 750,000 forced into exile to return home.
Rather, the archives showed that the new Israeli state’s soldiers had carried out terrible massacres to drive out the Palestinian population. The overall ethnic cleansing operation had a name, Plan Dalet.
And of course, if you achieve it, with or without war, a Palestine ruling class would be “free”, but the vast majority of the people living between the river and the sea wouldn’t be.
Freedom is a relative term and most Palestinians would regard any improvement in their living conditions worthwhile compared with the 75 years of oppression at the hands of the Israeli state.
Previous campaigns to eradicate Palestinian movements have not only generally failed, but as a rule enhanced their stature. The scale of the current onslaught has catapulted Hamas’ stature to unprecedented levels among Palestinians, and indeed among Arabs and in the Global South more generally. That’s not a challenge that can be resolved by a fleet of F-35s armed with tons of high explosives.
Israel’s extraordinary self-regard and capacity for self-glorification notwithstanding, the elimination of Hamas is a non-starter, least of all at the hands of the thoroughly mediocre Israeli military and intelligence capabilities as revealed on 7 October.
And, lest you forget, capitalism is the only game in town.
It’s a bitter pill to swallow, I know.
Until your dream world arrives, suffice to proclaim what is much more likely to be attainable: from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!
If you want to criticise the SPGB for anything, I don’t a failure to retain members can be high on the list.
If you’re who I think you are, weren’t you once a member? 🙂
Most members are long-standing.
And, with the greatest respect, long in the tooth!
But still, I’m puzzled why you’re so concerned.
A girl’s got to have a variety of pleasures, including BD’s cunning linguist, to relieve occasional boredom. Coming here is just one such activity. 🙂
But, mister moderator, I really will try to be more constructive in future…
Breathtakingly hypocritical of Johnson to take part in such a march after he depicted Jews as controlling the media and being able to “fiddle” elections in a little-known 2004 novel written while he was a Tory MP.
Seventy Two Virgins, also includes numerous other questionable portrayals of ethnic minorities.
While telling the story of a fictional terror attack on Westminster, Johnson deploys descriptions of Kosovan Muslims as having “hook noses”, describes a mixed-race character as “half-caste” and repeatedly uses racial slurs, introducing a group of characters as “pikeys”, an ethnic slur for travellers, and another as a “Chinaman”.
I imagine that Grant’s successors. having built up some support amongst students, has thought this up as something to keep these recruits occupied and motivated in order to retain them
So what will your little band of bruvvers (and two sistahs) do to retain your recruits, assuming you make any in the first place?
Offer them a share of the £2.6 million which they can hopefully spend before it’s too late?“Can’t argue with that – except that it’s now 120 years!”
So by definition you can argue with that, because you just did.
It’s the completely barren results I can’t argue with, hammerhead.
“Unfortunately, the movement of the working class does not proceed in a straight line. Otherwise, all that would be necessary would be to proclaim from the street corners the need for a revolutionary party – as the SPGB has proclaimed for 50 years the superiority of Socialism over capitalism – but with completely barren results.”
Can’t argue with that – except that it’s now 120 years!
Is Martha Lane Fox and all of the now right wing “heed the balls” going to rejoin?
I think you mean Claire Fox.
🚨WATCH: Israeli children sing, "We will annihilate everyone" in Gaza, against a background of destruction.
Disturbing video was posted, then deleted by Israeli national broadcaster @kann_news.
We captured it and added English subtitles
FULL STORY: https://t.co/fzS5bu2NBx pic.twitter.com/pKut1WYixi
— Electronic Intifada (@intifada) November 19, 2023
Ask yourself, if you were a Palestinian in Gaza and had access to a weapon what would you do? If Israel killed your family, how would you react? Why would you care about international or humanitarian law when you know it only applies to the oppressed, not the oppressors? If terror is the only language Israel uses to communicate, the only language it apparently understands, wouldn’t you speak back with terror?
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/the-horror-the-horror-read-by-eunice
Police estimate more than 300,000 (not 30,000 as reported on Spintcom) protesters marched through central London on Saturday to call for a ceasefire in Gaza. Organisers believe 800,000 people attended.
