lindanesocialist
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moderator1 wrote:The time and place for discussing the "democratic control of party meetings and committees" is on the party mailing lists SPINTCOM and not here on the forum. The forum is for the public discussion of questions relevant to socialism.
Who said so? Are you talking with your Mod hat on?Is this a Warning?Where has it been decided that discussion of party democracy and democratic control is prohibited on this website? And when was it decided that the democratic nature of the Socialist Party is not a 'question relevant to socialism'?
Young Master Smeet wrote:Hear, hear. I come to this forum to read about socialism and discuss socialist ideas,Lol. Is this supposed to be serious or are you pulling my leg. Infantile crap?Science for Socialists? Free sex in socialism? Advertisements for post cards. More important than democratic control of party meetings and committees?
Here is the actual email content of Vin's request to the EC and NOT read out at ADM. Selective use of information passed on to the EC by the Internet Committee http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/website-technical/moderators-decision-cde-marattys-indefinite-forum-ban?page=16Post 163 Vin has taken the advice of the OP and and a friendly comrade and written to the EC. We will see you all in a few monthsWe really need to speed up our democratic processes To the EC I had not realised that the EC had suspended me from the SPGB Party forum and this led to some confusion with the IC and Moderators . I request that the EC lift my ban and reinstate my account. I undertake to abide by the rules of the forum. May I also ask that the EC reconsiders my nomination as a member of the AV committee as I feel I have something to contribute to the party and our movement? Please seehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roJc5Ytu8LY Yours for socialism vincent Maratty Attachments area Preview YouTube video Proposal Regarding Party Video Production Proposal Regarding Party Video Production
mcolome1 wrote:I have decided not to partcipate in this forum anymore. I am hanging my boxing gloves. I will go to the places where they are discussing about the real problems of the working class. The socialist party has lost its working class basis. This is like a social club. Left wingers are doing a better job than this forumPlease don't do that comrade. Your contributions are intelligent and informed and, more importantly, democracy, socialism the working class and your opposition to dictatoral attitudes permeates your posts which is badly needed to counter the rubbish we have to read at times
gnome wrote:I struggle to understand why our normally vigilant moderators are inexplicably tolerant of the continuing multiple postings from the so-called UserExperienceResearchSpecialist across several threads.While ignoring ADM floor resolutions suggesting that a party member should be allowed back on the forum.Perhaps there is a danger he may actually open up a discussion on matters of concern to the working class instead of a lot philosophical, metaphysical, and sexually perverted bullshit.
moderator1 wrote:That very question is on the moderators agenda for discussion.Could we please see a copy of this agenda and where and when it will be discussed?
moderator1 wrote:lindanesocialist wrote:Many suggestions have been made over the past few years to improve openess and democracy on the forum and make it more 'communist'. None of the suggestions were taking seriously.I strongly disagree. It may have passed your notice that due to measures I've taken the forum is much more open and democratic. I refer you to the 'Moderation suggestion' thread for an example of this. Curently the Internet Committee is discussing a 'Users guidelines' which if adopted will improve the democratic moderation of the forum.May I assure you that all suggestions to "improve the openess and democracy on the forum" is taken very seriously.
Very good to see improvements in on-line openess and democracy of the Party .
moderator1 wrote:lindanesocialist wrote:We already know what Vin said. Already pointed out by ALB and accepted.Where is the copy sent to the EC?That is the email sent to the EC as requested by Vin. I repeat its the original email from Vin and not a copy of the message posted here on the forum. May I remind you the EC had requested the IC to forward all communications from Vin.I think an apology is in order.
It certainly is. You were selective in what you sent to the EC. Which resulted in an extension of his ban.You apologise to Vin for the over moderation and extended suspensions that you have applied to him and reinstate his account as suggested by branch delegates at the ADM.
We already know what Vin said. Already pointed out by ALB and accepted. A Joke, sarcasm in reply to your silly quasi-religious request for an Act of Contrition. Where is the copy sent to the EC?
His words according to minute taker
Quote:23. Report of Internet Committeeand had sent a piss-taking “apology” to the EC. At its October meeting the EC had not overturned the suspension.not 'among papers' which is not the the truth.
Many suggestions have been made over the past few years to improve openess and democracy on the forum and make it more 'communist'. None of the suggestions were taking seriously.
ALB wrote:Comrade Browne read this statement in full which he said was among papers before the EC:https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/website-technical/moderators-decision-cde-marattys-indefinite-forum-ban#comment-33854The statement in front of the EC and read out by Browne to the ADM was not sent by Vin. It was a joke posted on this forum, a 'chat room' . Whoever sent this as a statement from Vin to EC as an apology from Vin owes Vin an explanation and a reason for doing so. It is scurrilous to say the least and has lead to an extension of Vin's suspension.Furthermore, the EC should not have accepted this statement, if it was not signed off by Vin or in an email from Vin.Vin sent a simple request to the EC to have his suspension lifted and was informed by the general secretary that his suspension was the responsibility of the forum moderators. No 'apology' was sent to the EC by Vin.
Browne (Lancaster): the comrade in question had been personally abusive to the moderators and other members of the Internet Committee, calling them “little Hitlers” and the like and had sent a piss-taking “apology” to the EC. At its October meeting the EC had not overturned the suspension. Vin sent NO apology to the EC. Let alone a 'piss taking' one. He has misled the membership at ADM.I suggest he supplies evidence of this 'apology' or withdraws the accusation.
