[lindanesocialist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HemZYkiXz4more than 1000 views in a week.Hopefully it may stimulate some thinking of those workers who watched it as they now know who the real socialists are 

[lindanesocialist]

Some useful definitions indirect defamation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

[lindanesocialist]

Suggestion: Mod 1 would step aside. He is the only Mod continually sending posts from myself to offtopic. He is clearly bias and prejudice

[lindanesocialist]

Young Master Smeet wrote:

Some useful definitions from Wikipedia:

 pseudonymˈsjuːdənɪm/noun a fictitious name,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             cowardˈkaʊəd/noun 1.a person who is contemptibly lacking in the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things."they had run away—the cowards!"synonyms:weakling, milksop, namby-pamby, mouse; More

[lindanesocialist]

Vin said I'm a the one with the appearance of a Troll but that doesn't make me one. That would be racist The other two is wor lass and her sister and they look nothing like sockpuppets. It would be very insulting to say so.

[lindanesocialist]

Pictures taken from our passports, proof positive that we are neither sock puppets nor trolls    

[lindanesocialist]

Tim Kilgallon wrote:

I've got to say Linda & Vin, if YMS is having a pop at you, which is by no means certain. 

 Lad Haddywayinshite Hinnie, Ya naw nowt

[lindanesocialist]

Vin didn't get away with his sarcasm.Bill knows all about the laws relating to indirect defamation.But I have a few 'useful definitions' to post soon  

[lindanesocialist]

He is referring to this account as being a sockpuppet , referring to vin and myself as trolls. He is bringing into question the intergrity both of us. His own post OP is by his own definition 'trolling' and it is a technique he uses to avoid direct reference to a member., while launching an attack. He is attempting to sow discord and provoke an emotional response, in this case he is the troll.In no way can this account  set up be described as a 'sockpuppet' . Both Vin and I attended online branch meetings and everyone is/was aware of what is going on. Indeed member encouraged it: SP ALB, TIM etc A member of the party arguing for change should not be referred to as a troll.Bill Martin should withdraw his implied attack on the two members's integrity or be suspended from the forum.Vin and Linda  

[lindanesocialist]

LBird wrote:

 and you'll be consigned to the lowest level of hell, here with me. 

vin said: excuse me but you are not at the lowest level. I am.  Looking forward to chatting when you reach the bottom but looks like you will be in hell with an evil materialist. 

[lindanesocialist]

lindanesocialist wrote:

Tim Kilgallon wrote:

  "I believe the forum rules and guidance are not fit for purpose, for a Socialist forum. It appears they have been based on the type of rules you find on other message boards, however no consideration for the democratic control of the forum has been included. It is interesting that the EC is putting forward the case for strong control over members "publishing" materials, yet there is no specific mention of any form of oversight of the forum.Specifically13. Moderators may temporarily or permanently suspend posting and private messaging privileges for posters they deem to be in violation of the rules.This rule needs to be altered so that a formal, transparent and fair process of appeal against moderation decisions is included.15. Queries or appeals relating to particular moderation decisions should be sent directly to the moderators by private message. Do not post such messages to the forum. You must continue to abide by the moderators’ decisions pending the outcome of your appeal.Again this rule needs to be altered. Why should this be done through PM, it is, to my mind absolutely necessary that Mods decisions are open to the fullest possible scrutiny, a separate area for this area of discussion should be created and open to scrutiny by all, in line with the history of the SPGB"I have also pointed out previously that I think that in line with common dispute review procedures,  Mod 1 should not have 

 Vin said: Members will have heard this before and the person who said it warned that  it will not go away and it hasnaeForums that ignore the basic principles of the party by making important decisions via PM and therefore in secret and  banning a member for life are not fit for purpose.A thread should be set up for mods to openly discuss their decisions in line with the history of the party. Instead of giving out decisions carved in stone like Moses

FRom what has been said by some members, most of the EC don't frequent the Internet let alone forums, so they clearly make their decisions in the dark,  on rumour and advice from the Internet Committee 

[lindanesocialist]

The OP asks for an act of contrition, yet when one is given it is sent to off-topic

[lindanesocialist]

Tim Kilgallon wrote:

  "I believe the forum rules and guidance are not fit for purpose, for a Socialist forum. It appears they have been based on the type of rules you find on other message boards, however no consideration for the democratic control of the forum has been included. It is interesting that the EC is putting forward the case for strong control over members "publishing" materials, yet there is no specific mention of any form of oversight of the forum.Specifically13. Moderators may temporarily or permanently suspend posting and private messaging privileges for posters they deem to be in violation of the rules.This rule needs to be altered so that a formal, transparent and fair process of appeal against moderation decisions is included.15. Queries or appeals relating to particular moderation decisions should be sent directly to the moderators by private message. Do not post such messages to the forum. You must continue to abide by the moderators’ decisions pending the outcome of your appeal.Again this rule needs to be altered. Why should this be done through PM, it is, to my mind absolutely necessary that Mods decisions are open to the fullest possible scrutiny, a separate area for this area of discussion should be created and open to scrutiny by all, in line with the history of the SPGB"I have also pointed out previously that I think that in line with common dispute review procedures,  Mod 1 should not have 

 Vin said: Members will have heard this before and the person who said it warned that  it will not go away and it hasnaeForums that ignore the basic principles of the party by making important decisions via PM and therefore in secret and  banning a member for life are not fit for purpose.A thread should be set up for mods to openly discuss their decisions in line with the history of the party. Instead of giving out decisions carved in stone like Moses

[lindanesocialist]

but you forgot for post 139 7. You are free to express your views candidly and forcefully provided you remain civil. Do not use the forums to send abuse, threats, personal insults or attacks, or purposely inflammatory remarks (trolling). Do not respond to such messages. which Vin was suspended for 

[lindanesocialist]

Vin said Thanks for that alan But I get no assistance as amember of the spgb only negativity and obstruction. A member of the usa has held his hand out in comradeship and I will accept itI have asked to join.Members of the SPGB refuse to accept me as a comrade. US welcome me and appreciate the work I am doing.I will feel free to get on with attracting members instead of wasting my time with infighting.I don't want to wast the few years I may have left in me  

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