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August 27, 2013 at 8:26 pm in reply to: The Socialist Party v. The SPGB – what are the differences? #96330
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Participantthe policies of TUSC look very weak, sometimes vague phrases, sometimes highly specifichttp://www.tusc.org.uk/policy.phpApart from different goals which don't really even overlap, this approach has been tried many times before and failed e.g. Independent Labour Party throughout the 20th Century, Socialist Labour Party in the 1990s, Socialist Alliance and then Respect in the 2000s. Since the late 20th Century, through recessions and booms, the electorate have understood it and rejected it.
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ParticipantThe text of the branch leaflets mentioned sounds interesting.
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ParticipantI'm not even sure "immigrants" is a meaningful term given the spurious basis on which "nations" are defined.
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ParticipantGreat!
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ParticipantSame's happened to me when I've dragged and pasted text. It looks okay until I post it then the line breaks have disappeared.
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ParticipantQuote:Religion has been the force that has divided human civilization and manipulates people with false believes that makes people do harm to others.If by religion, you mean irrationality (a broad definition I could accept) then I would agree. If by religion you mean existing religious organisations, I would argue class may be a bigger division.
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ParticipantTo copy from the Wikipedia entry on Antonio LabriolaMarxism is not a final, self-sufficient schematisation of history, but rather as a collection of pointers to the understanding of human affairs. These pointers needed to be somewhat imprecise if Marxism was to take into account the complicated social processes and variety of forces at work in history. Marxism was to be understood as a "critical theory", in the sense that it sees no truths as everlasting, and was ready to drop its own ideas if experience should so dictate.
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Participantcheers
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ParticipantYoung Master Smeet wrote:I'm not sure that's true, on a basic empirical level, several hundred thousand at least vote left in election, dwarfing those who engaged in Occupy. I'm not so sure that Occupy eshewed demands, as such, although there was no platform, central demand, it was rife with people who had money crankery up their sleeve.I think you're using left in a sense of self-identified lefties who eschew revolution, strange in a topic about the Left Unity project. In the rhetorically "revolutionary" mileu, Occupy has done pretty well, in terms of breadth and depth of support, especially contrasted to non-"revolutionary" lefties, Labour etc.. Occupy Wall Street was also much better at this than Occupy London.
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ParticipantThe ideas of the Occupy Movement (especially Occupy Wall Street's refusal to engage with possibilist demands) engaged more people than the left has done in the last few decades.
August 21, 2013 at 3:58 pm in reply to: Bono (U2) – “Capitalism lifts more people out of poverty than aid” #95308jondwhite
ParticipantA good article on philanthropyhttp://truth-out.org/news/item/18279-how-billionaire-philanthropy-is-fueling-inequality-and-helping-to-destroy-the-country
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ParticipantSome moreManchester 24 August Walsall 24 August Grimsby 31 August Reading 31 August Watford 31 August Milton Keynes 31 August Leicester 31 August Cardiff 31 August Southend 31 August Sunderland 1 September Barnsley 1 September Preston 28 September
August 19, 2013 at 7:15 pm in reply to: Bono (U2) – “Capitalism lifts more people out of poverty than aid” #95306jondwhite
ParticipantThat's Life
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ParticipantCharming. It would also feed the delusion about organised political parties constituting some sort of threat, not something the SPGB should be doing.
August 19, 2013 at 1:57 pm in reply to: Bono (U2) – “Capitalism lifts more people out of poverty than aid” #95304jondwhite
ParticipantI hear Tatchell has a soft spot for the politics of William Morris.
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