duncan lucas
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You only have to look at the difference in the treatment to the poor in Russia and compare it with the US. Neo-cons dont believe in social services just look at the attitude of "judge Judy " -no job work picking up cans -one job and cant pay ? then get 2 jobs -cant use your arm ? then use the other and get a job etc she speaks for the US far right attitude . Are you saying Putin doesnt provide social services or the the babushkas arent treated with respect or that the poor dont get free medical treatment ? Try crawling into a US hospital and say -" I need help " first question- can you pay for it ?? if not herded off to that underfunded hospital in less good parts of the town . Just look at this country on its way to hell for the poor and its only talk -talk -talk .Food banks everywhere more than ever were in the 30,s Depression and this Depression now lasting longer than the 30,s one.Economic crisis WHO caused it ??? World Banksters -IMF who own them and where do they live Who owns the US and UK ? -we want our profit we dont care if 1000,s die of starvation but DONT do as Iceland did -we never got our profit from them . I cant comprehend that all you want to do is talk semantics of political points I dont give a damn about any politics unless it effects the poor and 99 % and if it does I am prepared to die for the fight against injustice -inhumanity – and pure evil bloody minded distain for those not rich but poor. Action is required not words.
I see where you are coming from Alan and you make good points. The problem is the war coming up wil be a major World War and we will all be physically effected even now Territorial army recruits are being given training and advice on a nuke war and their depots are more ""livelier " . Ukraine might have been what you said a "client state" of Russia but the poor got their oap,s cheap (subsidised by Russia ) and the poor elected their President . That was ripped from them by Nazi,s who made the oligraths even more richer by even worse graft and corruption . Take a real look at Putin,s Russia and you will see social services thriving -cheap gas/electric the old treated with respect . Compare that with the US -neo-con rules the poor = workshy -layabouts -etc cut their benefits give it to billionaires as usual Cameron millionaire copies the US what do you see in the 90 % UK media programmes showing those living on benefits as—workshy-layabouts – A survey was carried out in Glasgow where there are poor dying younger than Palestinians it was found about 2 % represented the view of the Tories/New Labour the rest were genuinely unable to get jobs due to bad education -bad home life -no money to make them see a vision of live is worth living. No I am on Putin,s side He is the "fly in the ointment " to the WEstern -NWO/Neo-con dream conquer him and the BRICS fail and the US big business will bring HEll to thev working class sweat shops returning -2 jobs to survive "work em to they collapse " back to Victorian times so much for trade union achievements over 100 years ground into the dust. No sympathy -no help -no goodness -only evil .
In life you are born and cry on feeling pain . Throughout your life you continue to feel pain by accidents fights or verbal pain by nasty comments to you . People are not nice they get jealous of you attack you and steal from you . THats life its reality not a conjecture of the ideals of man .I always deal in reality your government lies-lies and lies again but even when they are caught wil their hand in the till you still beleive them and not people like Snowdon that is total brainwashing . I go by what the government of the UK and US actually do -by their actions -never by their words as they wouldnt know the truth if they tripped over it in the road . I just cannot understand when the UK/US are trying to start WW3 with Russia and when this country wil be flattened when the Russian Bear hits back that the 99 % are being kept in the dark even when HMG says they are exercising the RAF over North England in case of war with Russia nobody is told the truth of what actually happens to your body . THose near it are vapourised those further away die in agony over weeks or months .Putin is "evil " etc pure bull— its the west that is the aggressor -false flag Iraq=1.5 MILLION civilians killed several 1000 gi,s thats a fact ! No other country in the last 50 years has invaded more countries-killed more people than the US they allow torture -indefinate detention etc all against International law . Ukraine was bought-paid for -by the US -my words NO American officials words NATO is now on Russia,s border again against a drawn up and signed International Treaty . Where is the cry of US/UK war planes near Russia,s border ??? nil comment . This is a War because of the US $$$ being not worth the paper it is printed on including Government bonds .They must make war or the US sinks down to reality thar printing money doesnt work in the long run they want Russian resources same as they have dione for 50 years -step 1= We dont like your politics -you are our enemy -step 2= sanctions-step 3 you are a rogue nation causing ""instability "" in the World -Hypocrites !! -step 4 Invade -steal their resources -and mopve on to the next country that the US says -we will bring democracy and ""freedom "" to you (after killing 100,s of 1000,s of civilians and diont forget our weapons factories need to try out the new weapons on civilians like phosphorus bombs that strip the flesh off you .Many people round this World agree with me and if you cannot see reality then there is no hope here for the poor -sick-old as Cameron millionaire privatises the NHS and the US ""Trade Treaty "" with the EU means a US takeover by big business and no going back to protect social services . No bread then let the poor eat cake !
I actually felt a bit emotional at those defending me against being called a "nutter " I was not expecting anyone to defend me in that issue I must rethink that there is balance here. My whole attempt is not to slag off the SPoGB but to somehow move you into action even if it is to disagree with me . You can only go by what life has done to you and your reaction to it .I learned early in life that words are all very well if its to do with a legal response to a situation in life (ie-get a laywer) but more was achieved by me when I took a physical response to a situation causing me trouble . That has achieved quicker results . I know you dont agree with Left-Unity but ,for the life of me , I just cant understand why you could not say= Well we dont agree with your politics but on a grander scale we do have things in common and that the end justifies the means ie- you all want to help the poor/sick/old of which I am in agreement 100 % . I get emails from organisations who know that that is my object as nothing is secret on the web to help them by signing petitions etc in many worthwhile causes my whole mind is centered round thev poor 24/7 and I get very angry with our and the US,s neo-con policies,thats just me I cant help it and yes I upset our government for putting the blame where it rightly belongs and therefore they try to shut me up by physical means of attack . That doesnt put me off because in my mind is one straight road for me to travel I dont deviate because I know what I do helps others and will help them till the day I die.
Well well ! the true nature comes out -agree with me -or else ! We are back to primary school playground comments or the type of statement put forward by government propaganda services to denigrate the worth of any statement put out to counter government lies. Exactly like the US neo-cons lying 24/7 about Russia and Putin. via VOA-Fox ""news ""-CNN the BBC etc 10000s of intellectuals Worldwide agree with me. Even US citizens .You say its ideas that count not actions ??? ideas are ZERO if not put into Practice ,no wonder the 99 % dont vote for you and never will . I repeat you are the same as a university debating society talk and no action . You refuse to face the reality of very low votes UK wide ,not even Scotland sees you as a alternative to the Tories as they vote for the SNP which compared to new labour is far to the left. IT implements socialist policies not just waffle about them . In the late 50,s to approx 1965 my cousin and I had communication receivers we both listened to VOR -aka Radio Moscow as well as communist satellite states -why ?? to get an alternative view of the World , In the 70,s when I joined BT (while still government controled ) my cousin tried to join as well he was knocked back -why ? because unlike me he wrote letters to them these were intercepted . My cousin went on to be a college lecturer so it wasnt lack of ability I just kept my mouth shut . You dont even realise you have been brought up to believe government propaganda even though it is total lies . This is easily shown by the actions (not ideas ) of the US/ UK/Israel they since the 1950,s have started war after war killing millions of World citizens -false flag after false flag but that is okay with you but Putin is "aggressive " a warmongerer" whereas in reality its the West that is on Russia,s door via NATO every flight of Russian planes is blown up whereas Nato flying round Russia,s border is "okay " with you . I am on the side of the 99 % and an audience -Worldwide -agree with me and others on our website -more and more members join because we tell the TRUTH! unlike liar Obommer and Cameron millionaire thats why we are attacked to stop the TRUTH being told . Come on John justify Obommer,s/Cameron,s and Nutteryahu,s ACTIONS in this World to me. ???
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. I expected better even your opposite numbers in politics are a bit more sincere.
Okay alan I will comment on Chechnia .When Yeltsen took over Russia he let the US/UK rip off Russia ,he was always drunk .At that time all the UK papers were saying what a nice man (as they ripped him off ) a lot of the soviet countries declared their independence from Russia at the same time as Gorby and Yeltsin were in power Still they said as per Maggie =quote -this is a man we can do business with. But near the end of Yelsin and the beginning of Putin Chechin Islamist war lords rose up . Now these "nice men " wanted to create a greater republic of Islam under Dudayev etc etc they destroted the republics -health centres -education-social security they started up drug factories for profit sold 90 % of the oil for profit for themselves as this was going on 10,s of 1000,s of refugees fled the country . THey were a hub of financial fraud -counterfeiting bank notes they remioved custom barriers -tax controls and the country was a safe haven for the worlds criminals . Not content with that they invaded Dagestan and robbed trains they also blew up 4 large appartment blocks for families 2 in Moscow 1 in South Russia 1 in Gagestan killing 246 people . They also planted bombs in Moscow underground killing more . And if that is not enough -although it was hushed up here , they DECAPITATED TWO BT ENGINEERS working there . I should know it happened while I worked for BT . Do you honestly tghink that Putin should put up with that ???? . He saw KOsovo being bombed by NATO-aka the US /UK so if they can bomb a foreign country should he not be able to bomb his OWN territory ????? This was okay with the US as it made Russia unstable just as they are trying to do justb now . Now if Mexico said to the US we want back New Mexico-California -Texas and caused the SAME trouble do you think for 1 millisecond the US would say okay and let them carryb on so no hypocracy please !! I cant for the life of me understand how you can be so brainwashed by the UK government thats why I said you and the British Nationalist were infiltrated by MI 5 years ago and YES I remember them boasting about it in the UK press. You tell me to get real but you are living in unreality permanently .You know you will neverv achieve power here so why not get real and join others who are on the same side of the fence ?? You do know that MI5 etc will help to keep you going as you are no threat to them only people like me get attacked for showing up government lies. TEll me WHEN you are going to get the 99 % behind you instead of just dreaming of a Marxist -Martix ??? ONly action counts nothing else and that should be directed against the UK government but you seem dead scared to criticise the government in strong terms either because of a fear of retaliation or you are working for the government. I do know how the spy services operate I have spent years watching and listening to what they do. And they would applaud you.
Why cant you just argue the points to me instead of quoting articles and websites .For every one you can quote I can quote 2 or more that contradicts yours. It surprises me you take the neo-con government line for a socialist group . The World is full of investigative journalists etc who along with Snowdon and others have no problem showing the UK/US governments wouldnt know the truth if they tripped over it in the road . I cant believe you are so "taken in " by lies from neo-cons . Think back I can remember when the Marxist and Socialist parties were infiltrated by MI5 it was in the UK "news " even went out on marches etc. You seem scared to criticise the government straight to its face or do you not want your PC scrambled or your website attacked by DDOS attacks and GCHQ causing you problems . You come across as the "acceptable face " of socialism in the eyes of the government no radicalism -no fire in the belly and NO danger to HM Government. and certainly no help for the poor you think you speak for but inreality dont . Why do you slag off the 99 % because they dont vote for you ? .The website I post on has today 40000 hits from Romania a country the US has in its grasp.and yet we are totally opposed to the US/UK far right neo-con values. Look in the future do you see one for socialism in the UK without a revolution of the people which you will never get . Can you not even reach out to other left wing groups because of "principles " principles never swayed the masses only down to earth physical actions by a group of people to show and help the poor.
If you believe UK/US government lies that is your privilege but millions dont agree with that view ,because facts counteract it. For a party that says it supports socialism you take the neo-con government view 1+1=2 not 6 . FACT ! 1 since the Korean War it is the US backed by the UK who has invaded -made war with -killed millions of civilians -tortured them -jailed them against human rights and international law proving the US is the world terrorist . Because the dollar is worthless as are their bonds the US is trying to take over world trade -with the help off the UK. It has only Russia to conquer and it wins and can use Russia,s resources so Putin is ""bad "" a ""warmongerer "" etc -who in the last 20/30 years has killed the most people the US -who has started wars to bring hypocrically – ""freedom "" ""democracy "" etc they cant even do it in their own country where freedom of expression is removed -the Declaration of Independence subverted -THe CIA can spy on US citizens now -the NSA spys on everybody -EACH day they intercept 5 BILLION world citizens comunications . THey torture with impunity -the US kills with impunity any world citizen it feels like . But you would rather say -and stamp your feet -I wont ! belive it -so there .Carry one in your delusions of reality but you do realise you achieve no effect on the population of the UK as proved by the low numbers voting for you -ah but they are SH–te not my words but your own posters what a way to talk about UK citizens . So carry on as you are, the UK government loves you you are stifling reality and helping big business make sure (like the US) that the workers in the UK have to work two or more jobs just to survive while you go on talking of the metaphysics of Marxism you are helping big business make life hell for the UK poor . If somebody ridicules me in a post and its ""okay " then why criticise me for answering back ! Democracy NOT here !
Steve I am one of the few genuine straightforward people in this World I hate injustice it actually makes me feel ill There are no sides to me you take me as you found me or not at all . What life has done to me is give me absolute determination and a steely will power I am prepared to die for a cause money cant buy me and the GCHQ know that.
Thank you Steve -sincerely . Socialist Punk -When I first came here I spoke the truth I wasnt against capitalism with a SMALL c but what we have got is rampart neo-Capitalism where the poor get walked all over and before you condemn me for small c capitalism -name me a country in the World that impilments ALL your philosophical viewpoints on socialism or Marxism ?? When I wake up in the morning it is to absolute reality -no rose tinted glasses -completely down to earth I see the harsh reality of the way the poor are treated and it makes me VERY angry !! I am a doer but now in older age I am stuck bending over a PC and typing posts over the World . One site is now out for 2 days I post on -taken out by big business . I am constantly attacked by the GCHQ if you are like me head to UK website= http://www.priacyinternational and sign up like me to find out if the GCHQ/NSA have been tracking you as of yesterday over 10000 uk citizens have . They are breaching articles 8+10 of the European Convention on Human Rights up to DEcember 2014 -using PRISM /Upstream to watch you -is that also a conspiracy theory -it was up till Snowdon blew those lies apart Every day the NSA spy on 5 BILLION users of mobile/ internet /landline etc sorry to say BT is giving it help. I have a lot more info but I might cause your website to be attacked
robbo-Why do you think the leaders of countries and the worlds richest people meet yearly under intense protection . They are deciding how the World shoud be run -the IMF-Banksters-all the Worlds Leaders if that isnt NWO I dont know what is ,its staring you in the face . Its now 2 % of the world who are richer than over 1 BILLION of the 98 % . THe UK/ US EU is OWNED by big business Camerons cabinet consists now of Millionaires . To pay the IMF-aka World Banksters its the POOR thats paying by reduced wefare benefit while the rich get tax CONCESSIONS -Cameron = these are the movers and shakers of this country therefore they must becvgiven all help from my government .Two years ago in a US TV program -up stepped a wee neo-con (laughing ) The EU is against US interests we will bring it down by demanding repayment (with enoromous interest ) starting with GREECE . WE will then take over the EU market once we bring them down so that in the long term we will own and run the EU market -achieving this as of now with the new US/EU Trade ""agreement " -once privatised then no going back -we demand this -so NHS -fully privatised cant be brought back into public ownership. WE have ZERO control over ANY government you put in ,every time the public believe politicians lies and vote them in they immediately refuse to do what they say they will do -they LIE ! Obommer says Putin is an "agressor" -what country from 1950 onwards has invaded country after country stealing millions of their resources killing millions of civilians -the US but you refuse to blame them because they say =we uphold """freedom """ and ""democracy "" -yes bringing the freedom to die from the US arms industry -keeps the shareholders happy . If you cant see that then its the blind leading the blind -WORDS mean NOTHING its ACTIONS that count !
It is obvious that "reason " to you is the neo-con government line which was was lies from the beginning and is lies now. BY believing big business lies you condemn yourselves to be a part of that government and a willing suplicant to its will -how the mighty have fallen !! in the space of 40 or 50 years socialism has gone from a cutting edge radical group beloved by the working classes to a version of the paid posters who inhabit websites like Russia Today as that is the next "take-out target if they cant win an argument by logic and reason they resort to childlike comments just to try to bring down a Russian website like they did to Press TV . I didnt realise the schools in the UK over 50 years now pedal a government line and have brainwashed so much of the public . You are the "safe " version of socialism ,the government accepted and approved version so much so I would not be suprised if some GCHQ part timers (paid ) post here. I remember several years ago when the NSA thought I was a US citizen I got an application form over the web to become a "propagandist " against the "evil " Russia . On visiting the application site I fell at the first post I was not a US citizen but many joined as they have been thrown out of their homes in the US by the Banksters and had a family to support along with the Soldiers of the Jerusalem POst (not my quote but theirs ) who defend the atrociaties of the IDF against the Palestinians (have look on the web of the baby with the rear of its head blown off by a IDF sniper or a wee boy whose body skin is completly removed by a phospherous bomb thats reality ! not -hear no evil-see no evil -speak no evil head in the sand tactics . I understand that and dont mind opposition as long as it doesnt go down the road of -well I have run out of answers so I will just slag him off -so there !
THank you fot your satorial comments I thought going by John,s posts of a higher intellect into the Zen of Marxism that all the posters were the same high intellect level. I am not disapointed because I understand as Stuart has in a sense pointed out by mentioning the Matrix (said in jest ) that even though you think of yourselves as pioneers " in Socialism and therefore radical you are no such thing and swallow the government line -hook -line and sinker because in reality you are scared stiff to oppose the government as you have your morgage-family-work to think about and (quite rightly ) they come first . So you are not really sincere in being radical but only play a kids game at it . You leave the real radicals to lose their jobs -and be constantly harrassed by the Government via GCHQ and jailed as happens in the US . It is you that live in a fairy land of non-reality and that is why the SP of GB will never attract the 99 % and you know it but wont admit it living in dreamland permanently maybe you think you are being brave posting here but HEr Majesties Government is laughing its head off at you -WHY ?? -because you present NO Danger to them but just a talking shop while real radicals like me and others are consrtantly attacked for our point of view . Your website isnt attacked nor are your members so really you are bedroom anarchists no better than a bedroom hacker while the "big boys " deal with reality . Stay in your self imposed dreamworld and leave real politics to adults.
