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ALB wrote:As I understand it, this is for comments on articles in the Standard or other of our online articles and pubications. Yet recently there have been two contributions direct fom forum members. How is this (technically) possible? Isn't there a built-in way of preventing this, otherwise this section will be no different from the General Discussion section.
yes. No easy inbuilt way to stop people doing it. The mod should just move them to the right section if they so wish…
alanjjohnstone wrote:ALB, since you raised earlier Bookchin's attitude to towards identity and lifestyle politics, wasn't "classism" one of Bookchin's criticism of the Left by overly identifying sections of the working class as something to aspire towards rather than abolish?I think that is more described as “workerism”.”Classism” is the idea that class exploitation is like racism and sexism etc.
Abbey Volcano and J Rogue wrote:Intersectionality has been, and often still is, centered on identity. Although the theory suggests that hierarchies and systems of oppression are interlocking, mutually constituting, and sometimes even contradictory, intersectionality has often been used in a way that levels structural hierarchies and oppressions. For instance, “race, class, and gender” are often viewed as oppressions that are experienced in a variety of ways/degrees by everyone—that is, no one is free of the forced assignations of identity. This concept can be useful, especially when it comes to struggle, but the three “categories” are often treated solely as identities, and as though they are similar because they are “oppressions.” For instance, it is put forward that we all have a race, a gender, and a class. Since everyone experiences these identities differently, many theorists writing on intersectionality have referred to something called “classism” to complement racism and sexism. This can lead to the gravely confused notion that class oppression needs to be rectified by rich people treating poor people “nicer” while still maintaining class society. This analysis treats class differences as though they are simply cultural differences. In turn, this leads toward the limited strategy of “respecting diversity” rather than addressing the root of the problem. This argument precludes a class struggle analysis which views capitalism and class society as institutions and enemies of freedom. We don’t wish to “get along” under capitalism by abolishing snobbery and class elitism. Rather, we wish to overthrow capitalism and end class society all together.Sums it up quite succinctly no?
ALB wrote:Incidentally, does anybody know what "privilege and intersectional theory" isactly. I know they are to do with class-dividing, (mis)identity politics, so-called Idpol, but what exactly?Actually the Wikipedia entry isn’t too bad:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionalityhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privilege_(sociology)Or this YouTube channel:https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-ASw3fKJNgXx8Lrh-FRMAlDplNxdkSlfEDIT: and this:http://libcom.org/library/insurrections-intersections-feminism-intersectionality-anarchism
ALB wrote:I hadn't realised they were that badMe niether. I would have thought the person we know has already left them, if he had even fully joined in the first place.
Sympo wrote:What would determine its price if only one person wanted to buy it (supply and demand in harmony)?The price would be whatever the buyer was willing to pay and whatever the seller was willing to accept.You can't increase the supply of a certain piece of land, space is not physically reproduceable..
Well here’s a new statement from those that left:https://communistanarchism.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/resignations-from-anarchist-federation.htmlAnd here’s the latest statement from the AF. It really has gone down the pan…https://www.facebook.com/Anarchistfederation/posts/2231949820163757edit: Those that left the AF have also added a longer statement:https://communistanarchism.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/class-struggle-anarchist-statement-on_1.html
Sympo wrote:If a piece of land is considered completely useless for commodity production, would it still have a price?Only if someone bought it.
Exchange-value and “value” in the Marxian sense are two different things.Exchange-value is price.Value is the amount of socially necessary abstract Labour time needed to reproduce a commodity.
ALB wrote:I agree. Hopefully the Libcom forum will continue, but what is the source of the passages quoted and where can the whole message be found?http://libcom.org/forums/general/why-are-places-revleft-revforum-dying-11122017
It's to do with the fallout of the incident at the bookfair.There's a segment (probably a large one) of people within the organisation that think that if you do not 100% agree with them on their definition of what a woman is you are no better than a fascist. Some, mostly more long standing members, questioned this but the environment within the organisation became one in which discussion could not be conducted. So some members decided there only option was to leave.They were concerned with how predominant liberal identity privilege politics had been within the organisation, at the expense of class struggle anarchism.I may be oversimplifying somewhat but this is the picture I have got through a few friends on Facebook.
jondwhite wrote:At some point RCP dropped Leninism and became spiked onlineAre you sure they've rejected Leninism. There's some pretty shitty stuff that gets written through Spiked.
Looks like a problem with the SSL certificate.You can avoid by visiting the site via regular http rather than httpshttp://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb
