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ParticipantSeemingly the RT and Sputnik website block is to do with an EU and UK ban in response to the invasion, rather than the sanctioning of individuals as I first thought. I knew they had stopped the TV station, and that social media sites weren’t allowing their content to be shared, but hadn’t realised actual access to the websites was blocked too. Seems not all the internet companies are doing it though.
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ParticipantYep, Sputnik only through TOR for me. Interesting that one of the top menu items on that site is an article on how to use a VPN.
Also interesting that not all of the mobile operators are blocking access.
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Participant“They don’t seem to have banned TASS, have they?”
I can get Tass.com on my standard connection so it seems not.
I wonder where / if you can get a list of the banned websites?
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ParticipantIf you can get it on your mobile, I’m guessing your network is not 3. I can’t get it on my mobile either, which is on that network.
But I can get around it by using TOR browser as I mentioned before. Possibly using a virtual private network (VPN) would have the same effect.
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ParticipantHas anyone else in the UK found that the RT.com website is now inaccessible? Seems ISPs have been forced to block it due to Russian sanctions. If you want to get around it you can download TOR browser and view it that way.
BTW I don’t think Alien’s comment is ‘pro-putin’, it’s just a description of what may have been taking place.
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ParticipantLizzie45: “Which is it?”. Probably a bit of both. Mathematically speaking it’s possible that “a large section of the population is engrossed in the whole charade” while the majority of the population is not that bothered about it.
Looking at some YouGov surveys it looks like support for the monarchy is falling year on year. It looks like the trend for is starting to head towards the 50/50 level.
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Participant“What the hell is it all about?”
It’s an exercise in state and national identity building. On the surface quite a successful one it would seem. But, at a guess, I would have thought most of the population isn’t really that bothered.
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Participant“we already have Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube accounts.”
And the last YouTube video posted was five years ago…
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ParticipantNot to knock what people are doing but I was suggesting making your own content on those platforms rather than leaving comments. I doubt comments get much attention, too many bores doing that already.
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ParticipantHere’s some data rather than anecdotes:
I would have thought the percentage would be higher in the UK, especially amongst the younger population. I believe AJ might have posted some figures on this a while back?
“The chance was lost the moment Lenin & Co. decided to steal the words socialism and communism.”
So what are you doing here if the chance has been lost?
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ParticipantAh yes, my bad. 32% it is – was looking at the wrong table.
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ParticipantI don’t think the word is as repellent as you think. The Corbyn era so-called “socialist” Labour party got over 40% of the popular vote in both of its general elections… It’s just that people don’t mean the same thing by it than us.
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Participant“The question we have to ask ourselves and try to identify is why we have not succeeded to communicate with and convince our fellow workers.”
FWIW The SPGB is virtually invisible online, as well as off. Nobody knows who you are. No regularly updated presence on things like YouTube and Instagram for example. Not that there are any silver bullets, but you could do something about that. Or you could just sit about here moaning and moping. It’s up to you..
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ParticipantHere’s the full relevant part of the other letter from MECW volume 45, page 212.
To Mrs Wollmann (19 March 1877) Marx wrote:
“Should you wish to leaf through some of Capital, it would be best to start with the last section, p. 314. In the scientific exposition the arrangement is prescribed for the author, although some other arrangement might often be more convenient and more appropriate for the reader.”
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Participant“There is no such letter by or from Marx.”
Strange thing to say, especially seeing as the link to the letter that was published in MECW is above.
Marx says that “the most immediately readable” sections of Capital are “the chapters on the ‘Working Day’, ‘Co-operation, Division of Labour and Machinery’ and finally on ‘Primitive Accumulation’”. But that’s different to saying that *everyone* should read those chapters first or that this is “the best” way to read the book.
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