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DJP wrote:

cyberrevolution1 wrote:

i agree with you that the SPGB is a luxemburgist movement

The SPGB isn't really "Luxemburgist" either, but certainly closer to Luxemburg than Lenin.But yes, that's not what you were asking.I think we have to utilize every method we can, and also look into the psychology of how people make and change beliefs, I think this aspect has not adequately been thought about in the past.What do you think?

thats an interesting way of looking at it. There's a book called the sane society by Eric Fromm, a book that combines psychoanalysis with Marxist thought. It speaks about the human situation, and how people are living an unfulfilled existence due to the materialism and consumerism of modern capitalism. I think theories like this would be a great place to start understanding how the people's minds work under celebrity culture capitalism, and see how to convey socialism in a way that would ring true to the masses

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I know, that was the question I was asking. I feel like this forum is often a battleground where members critique others choice of words and their interpretation rather than actually discussing the topic

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DJP wrote:

Your mistake is to think that the SPGB is a vangardist party. In fact we would agree with Rosa Luxemburg, and are against Lenin.How to propagate socialist ideas? I don't think there is one best answer or magic bullett.

i wasn't saying the SPGB is a vanguard party, I was using it as an example of what would act as a vanguard party in lenninists ideologyi agree with you that the SPGB is a luxemburgist movement

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Interesting. Thank you for challenging my view of socialism. I'm learning more and more about it every day. Perhaps sieze was a poor choice of words, I was trying to imply that socialism is about taking back control from the rich elites.i agree with you that populism and socialism should not become an alliance-I was playing devils advocate really as I was interested in people's opinions on it- but I do not think denouncing populism as an evil movement will do the impossiblist socialism movement any favours. While populism is led by the rich elites, the followers are often members of the working and middle classes. These are people who are sick of elites, and believe populism will challenge the elites not realising that the populist candidates are elites themselves. The movement is elitist and imperialist, but the followers are not necessarily that. Pherhaps socialists should recognise what the appeal of populism is to people in Britain who feel left behind by the state, and use this understanding to preach socialism to them in a way that would get through to them 

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