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lol, but climate change is real, so is automation, and so are shock collars and private armies. They’ll have plenty of ‘us’ in the bunkers with them doing the ‘Jeeves’ impression. The only thing that will change is the scale. Billionaires reading books like Boris’s dad wrote about eugenics and stating again and again that we are overpopulated. Do you really trust megalomaniac psychopaths to provide you with a future? We aren’t so much overpopulated as suffering from a resource allocation problem due to an immoral system of government and logistics. We are heading for a culling of the human cash cow herd through nuclear Armageddon, climate change or dystopian corporatocracy. Maybe a mixture of all three just for the fun of it. Fallout 4 is not much fun in the real world.
Anyways the main point is that we are at a crossroads, too many people are happily binge-watching TV in apathy and don’t even care. As much as I want Capitalism to go the way of the dodo can you really see that happening? can you really imagine that without opposition from people who use genetic warfare, phosphorous bombs, and ballistic missiles and have access to safe bunkers where they start again as omnipotent deities?
I’m just saying that the only thing we can be sure of is that power is never given, only taken. Unfortunately, the vast majority of people live in apathy and have already given up. The rest of us an extreme minority, are facing the most technologically advanced sociopaths in history.
Hi and thank you. But I’ve already said red and blue neoliberalism, and that doesn’t change the fact that we used to have a real Labour party that took the poor out of the slums by giving them social housing, gave them legal aid, free healthcare, the welfare state, public transport and national industries. Preaching to the converted buddy, we still have to live with the reality of now! We still have make choices that affect the next generation.
Money – Money is simply a human construct that in practice allows a tiny minority to own and control the vast majority of the world’s ‘actual’ resources (Land, Water, Human Labour).
Capitalism – Burying efficient technologies and creating useless tat with built-in obsolescence in an endless cycle of consumerism and pollution, plunging the human race headfirst into extinction for the sake of profits, in a relentless debasement of sanity and logic.
The Mainstream Media – The mainstream media writes the script for society and we unwittingly play our part. With each psychological cue, every handcrafted narrative, and each carefully chosen word to manifest the illusion. They predict the future and we become the self-fulfilling prophecy.
When you say ‘Monkeys were offered peanuts to REALLY electrocute their fellows’ are you talking about capital punishment in the US? lol Sorry couldn’t resist 🙂
I didn’t know it had been tried with monkeys, surely that would omit the authority figure and general understanding of their purpose. Humans need to drop hierarchy, I’d talk to King Charlie his royal heinous in the same way I’d talk to anyone else. If he didn’t like it he could always go back to talking to his plants.
lol, nice one Thomas, a modern take on the Milgram experiment with a twist. I wonder what percentage of pets would push the button if an authority figure told them to? 65%? Goes to show what I’ve always said about the media being more manipulative than people realise.
Hey Alb, Part 2 of repost of deleted, spam-filtered reply: You have two choices as I see it; an ideological shift or direct action. The wealthy will block direct action with more than just legislation and the police. They’ll be quite happy to get rid of us in a heartbeat if we threaten their hegemony.
The wealthy aren’t planning to keep us plebs around anyway mate. The global market for “incident and emergency management” (bunkers, supplies, closed systems for air and water) is expected to jump in value from $132.4 billion in 2021 to $423 billion by 2025. In Switzerland alone, there is space for approximately nine million people in one of the country’s 360,000 bunkers. While Norway hosts the Svalbard seed bank with over a million varieties from all over the world. While American companies currently control a leading share of the $224 billion global private military and security company (PMSC) industry. The rich aren’t worried about the rest of us, they can wait it out in bunkers. What plan do you have to deal with billionaires their bunkers and private armies?
Hey ALB, *my reply was deleted and now it’s telling me I can’t repost it as it’s a duplicate* Part 1 attempted repost: I left Labour when Blair dropped clause 4 mate. Starmer is a second-rate Blair tribute act. Until you overthrow Capitalism then we have to deal with the consequences of the current system. Labour are the lesser of two evils, If you’ve read my stuff you’ll have seen that I’m aware that we have the choice between red and blue neoliberalism. I’d prefer Social Democracy over Neoliberalism and I’d prefer to change the system. But pipe dreams aside we have to deal with what’s here right now. I’ll be first in line at the march when that day comes mate, but I’m not an optimist and I’m also not going to pretend the overthrow of Capitalism is likely to occur in my lifetime. We have Authoritarian legislation coming down the pipeline to stop striking, stop protests, increase surveillance, increase censorship, increase kangaroo courts via remote judgements and a legal aid desert and much more.
I understand the points in your argument, but while they are useful theoretical points and for the most part accurate. We have to deal with the reality we face right now. Tories are the problem right now, cronyism, corruption, nepotism, authoritarianism and a leaning towards Fascist corporatocracy are the immediate concerns we face. The Overton window has shifted far to the right, not only in Britain but also globally – Italy, Hungry etc. You aren’t going to convince anyone to change Capitalism by arguing among yourselves on semantics and interpretations of ideology. I’ve spent decades influencing people on social media and it’s still only a drop in the ocean.
I’m sure we’d agree on much, unfortunately, logic and reason don’t work against the gestalt weight of a million idiots. Especially when they just regurgitate tabloid narratives. The media is a kaleidoscope of multicoloured bullshit and most people don’t look further than the pretty colours. Spend some time on social media and you’ll see what you’re up against. Not to mention the censorship you’ll face. I’m kicked off Twitter and barely get 10% of comments through the youtube filter.
I like that, It’s a strange world where comedians tell the truth and politicians provide the jokes. The Wicked Witch of Westminster and her crocodile tears. If only we could find the object that ties Suella Braverman to this world and then destroy it, in doing so send her back to the underworld from whence she came! The same goes for Priti.
Hi and welcome, as far as I’m concerned left and right is just a term to describe the difference between ideologies that seek to control or free humanity. The right is about control and manipulation, while the left is about community and compassion. We are social animals so the left is a natural inclination for me. Unfortunately all systems no matter how well intended are subject to human flaws. People who want to use them to rise to power so they can dominate others. The sooner we drop the idea of hierarchy the better, unfortunately, those who seek to dominate will say it’s inherent in human beings, I’d disagree.
Please feel free to read some of the Tory bashing and salient points regarding Capitalism and Finance on my blog. I’d hope to provide a few laughs too.
Take care!
Thank you. I reject the idea that violence is a Fascist concept, revolutionaries use violence to free people from oppression, and Fascists use violence to oppress. When you talk about oppressive aspects of Communism I’d argue that the authoritarian and dictatorial nature of those regimes negates them from claiming Communist or Socialist ideologies. I’m old so when I say new concepts I mean they have been touted by the right in the past few decades to dismiss Socialism and stigmatise Communism. I am a proponent of ending Capitalism through an ideological shift or direct action, but I would propose a new system based on the central principles of Socialism/Communism. I understand that advocating Communism and Socialism directly would be an impossible sell to the world, too much bad blood so to speak. Partly because of preconceptions surrounding those systems, and party because most of us grew up in a Capitalist world and suffer from Capitalist biases, teachings, misconceptions, dogma etc. I am an ally but prefer to remain outside of political affiliation.
From my ebook: “I will admit that despite my preference for Social Democracy/Democratic Socialism over Neoliberalism I think we need to design a new system. Utilising a group of our best city planners, engineers, architects, resource management experts, security advisors, ecological experts, human rights lawyers, inventors, technical experts etc to complete the task of creating a sustainable resource-based economy (The value of goods are based on sustainability, availability, labour intensity etc. To achieve the consistent global values of a resource) and a community that is ecologically sound and based around decentralised power. Essentially taking advantage of modern technology, like the ability to gain a consensus of the population in minutes on any given topic and therefore removing the middlemen who usurp power for their corporate causes via lobbying and corrupt politicians.
A pipe dream maybe, but something to work towards. It just seems to me that rather than wasting our lives in the pursuit of profits/wealth, we should be more concerned with individual growth and personal development – becoming the best version of ourselves. While creating a society using the best technologies and materials available to allow human beings to thrive.”
Bolshevik ideology is revolutionary Socialism. My reference is related to the singular term state, Bolsheviks wanted a Socialist/Communist state. Maximilien François Marie Isidore de Robespierre was a revolutionary leader. Revolution is a bloody game, where innocents and collaborators alike often die. How Paine was treated is a matter for history, he refused to support the execution by guillotine of Louis XVI and for that, he was imprisoned until an American diplomat helped free him and Paine left France in 1802/3 for America. I’m not interested in pedantically debating minutia, I get enough of that with the right. I’m counterpropaganda if you want endless pedantic debate around conflations and semantics you’ve come to the wrong person…
Capitalist entities only exist within capitalism! Fascism can therefore only logically exist in a Capitalist structure! How can Communism a replacement for Capitalism contain Fascism? You are conflating violent revolution and violent oppression under Fascism. Robespierrists were revolutionaries fighting for equality against brutal oppression. The French revolution and the American war of independence were both largely due to the writings of Thomas Paine who was present at both.
No one has argued that Nazi Fascism existed outside of Capitalism – Fascism is the merger of capitalist entities with state entities – how many times do I have to define well-known terms? You are misrepresenting what I said. Nazi Germany was a Fascist regime within a Capitalist system. We are heading for a fascist corporatocracy right now. Look at current legislation such as The Elections Bill, The Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill, Online Safety Bill, Judicial Review and Courts Bill, and Human Rights Act reforms. I’m not going to argue about your conflation of revolution and fascism. Were the French fascists during the French revolution? Conflation and cognitive dissonance seem rife in society these days.
Nazi Germany was a Fascist state since it merged corporate and state power with a dictator at its head. By definition that is Fascism and all the history books conclude the same. Ideology is a system of ideas and ideals that form the basis of an economic and political blueprint. You are misrepresenting what I said and the terms used. I’m not going to waste time in circular debate, please check the definitions of the terms I used and reread as many times as you need to. The idea that the far-left – Communism and far-right – Fascism are related is a new concept that right-whinge think tanks spread. They are polar opposites, to suggest otherwise is a form of cognitive dissonance and internal conflict. When a Communist state becomes a dictatorship it no longer has the right to claim itself Communism, It is no longer controlled by or in the hands of the workers.
They are the ideological opposite, the antithesis. But no I’m not obsessed it’s a right-wing argument that is used to discredit the left and Socialism and is prevalent on social media. If you’d spent decades being subject to these revisions of history by right-whinge knuckle-draggers you’d no doubt be aware of that.
