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ParticipantRight wings capitalists do not need fascism anymore when they have a lot of support from the world working class, and they can use the electoral process to win elections, they do not have a large opposition from the working class, right now, Donald Trump does not have a large opposition like during 2016 which started with his presidential inauguration, he is free to do whatever he wants, and the so called opposition party is already collaborating with him, and there are blacks, white, Arabs, asian and latinos supporting him, basically, it is not a problem of the color of the skin
In Chile the leftwing coalition made a big deal about fascism, they raise a lot of dust flapping their wings about the so called post fascism ( a new form of fascism ) in order to scare the workers and to win the election, and after they took the control of the state they started to collaborate with the so called fascists, and the right wingers had total control of the congress. and they were elected by the workers, and thousands of workers did not vote for anyone of them, as a sign of protest their votes was blank despite that fact that voting is mandatory
After 3 months the popularity of the president fell down to 30% and workers made a plebiscite against him, and the medication has been worse than the disease, they called themselves pro feminism and a protest of women was attacked by the police force, and a woman and a leader of the leftwing coalition became head of the army and the police, the same army that overthrew Salvador Allende, and they called it the popular army before he was overthrown, the same army used to repress the mining workers which were called anti patriotic, the same nationalist rhetoric used by the right wingers
Capitalists do not need fascism in order to manage the state apparatus which was the form adopted by capitalism in France and Germany to manage their economic/political affairs, when they can use the state infrastructure in order to manage the capitalist economy, even more, the workers are asking them to dismantle all the state agencies and they are approving dictatorial measures
There have been places where the right wings populists have wiped out completely all the opposition political parties and they have been eliminated by the massive votes of the working class, those opposition parties were eliminated because they did not carried out the promises that they made which prove that capitalism can not be reformed to satisfy the needs of the vast majority of the workers, and the right wingers used those mistakes to win the sympathy of the workers. Next time the left-wingers are going to win again, in the USA the next partial election is going to be won by the other side, workers are oscillating from side into another side
Racism, xenophobia, wars and international conflicts is produced by capitalism it is not exclusively produced by fascism, the so called anti fascist were racists, xenophobic, homophobic, and they promoted wars before the emerge of fascism. and they are as violent as the so called fascists.
The real problem is capitalism, and nobody wants to face that reality
https://www.blackagendareport.com/trump-keeps-his-promises-while-democrats-must-be-abandoned. Democrats abandoned their promises and workers punished themhttps://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/01/22/rzmb-j22.html They are collaborating and supporting the new government.
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ParticipantDonald Trump signed an executive order to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America which means that the US will take possession of the whole region and the sea without consulting with other nations.
He does not know that America is composed of North America, South America, Central America and the Caribbean islands. If the changes the name it means that the gulf belongs to all the Americas.
Probably he does not know that Mexico is also known as the United States of Mexico, and Venezuela was also known as the United States of Venezuela.
The US workers have elected a new king that is again applying the Papal Bull known as the Doctrine of discovery
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ParticipantIt looks that there is another sheriff in town. China is planning to travel to Mars too
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ParticipantThe concept from the river to the seas can be applied to the USA, and in this time the slogan is from the river, to the sea and to the space, but wishful thinking or parrot talking is different to reality,
The world hegemonic decline of the USA did not start a few days ago, and it can be stopped by one individual. World market is the one that will make that decision,
There is another empire known as China who also wants to conquer the whole world, even more Mao Tse Tung wrote: When the tiger comes late to diner, the tiger wants to eat more than anybody else, and the Chinese empire is aggressive too. it is known that every new empire finds the world carved by another empires, and that creates confrontations and international frictions, therefore, the USA is not the long ranger anymore as they believe, and a multi polar world has always existed
World World Two showed that the only way to remove a world competitor is thru a war, but in that time the USA was an industrial powerful nation, able to produce and reproduce, and controlled many natural resources around the world, and it was not internally attacked by anybody else, time has changed and China is also a powerful industrial nation which possesses intercontinental missiles like the USA and Russia, and controls many natural resources around the whole world too
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ParticipantJoe Biden has discovered that the USA is controlled, or it is going to be controlled by an oligarchy, but it is nothing new , it has existed since the foundation of the USA, and most of the founders were members of the class, the problem is that the old false illusions can not be covered anymore, it is more open now, and they can not hide it any longer. Russia is not the only country in the whole world that is controlled and governed by an oligarchy. The so called founder fathers of the USA did not believe in the rules of the majority
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ParticipantThis Marxist Leninist group call itself Marxist but they do not understand that the means of production belong to the capitalist class, and that workers only own their labor force, the Communist Manifesto clearly says that the workers do not have any country. Greenlanders do not own any land, it is similar to the case of the Falkland island, it does not belong to the Argentinian workers. They never learn, and continue propagating false conceptions
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January 18, 2025 at 5:49 pm in reply to: ICC international online public meeting, 25 January #256286Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantThis is another article on the so called national debt:
January 18, 2025 at 5:08 pm in reply to: ICC international online public meeting, 25 January #256284Citizenoftheworld
Participant“The Left Communists and their fellow travellers are like a third rate version of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, prophesying the “end is near”
The spgb would then be the church of England: “Don’t worry, one day everyone will believe” without the need for any struggle.
….obviously this is inaccurate and needlessly offensive but perhaps it is as true as your anti-left-communist nonsense…
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We should listen to the point of view of others organizations. That is one of the reason why the SPGB has been called sectarian by others groups, and we should try to bring more organizations to this forum and peoples from other nations and treat them properly . I do publish articles from other organizations including the CCI. I think I am going to attend this meeting
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ParticipantThis is Peter Hudis book on the Alternative to capitalism
There is a critiques on this book made by Socialist Studies.( Pdf download )
I think Adam Buick book on the Alternative to capitalism is more objective
The Complete Works of Rosa Luxemburg
I do not hink Lenin was ambivalent, he was never a socialist/communist, Without Lenin, the Soviet Union and his followers socialism/communism would have been in a much better stand. I do not think that Marx was a Hegelian thru all his life either, I might say as CLR James: There is nothing for us on Hegel. The only thing that I care about Marx and Engel was that their were real socialist/communist, and we should have their class consciousness, and we do not need to worship them, and it is not a question of academia, or for intellectuals, or having PHD to understand them, and both made mistakes like any human beings, and Engels dedicated his life and his personal resources to propagate Marx ideas and socialism.
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ParticipantProbably, I am out of topic, but I am going to answer the question briefly
News and letters committee is an organization original founded by Raya Dunayeskaya, and Peter Hudis was one of her personal secretary, and he was an Organizer along with Olga Domansky
They had difference in regard to Raya Dunayeskaya concept of organization and philosophy, the trustee of her works, and financing of the organization. Olga stayed in News and Letters committee
Peter Hudis and Kilman formed a new group known as Marxist Humanist Initiative, and later on they had differences too and Kilman continued
directing the organization and Peter Hudis and Kevin Anderson formed International Marxist Humanist organizationsBasically these are their differences:
An Open Letter to Members of the International Marxist-Humanist Organization
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January 18, 2025 at 9:04 am in reply to: ICC international online public meeting, 25 January #256271Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantI did not say that Luxembourg said that , I have added the two wrong conceptions into one message
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Henryk Grossmann was the first Marxist economist that proposed a theory of crisis based on the Marxian law of the falling rate of profit due to the increasing organic composition of capital. This view, while initially disappointingly minotirarian, has become very popular nowadays
within Marxist Political Economy.
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Rosa Luxemburg’s theory of capitalist collapse is the idea that capitalism is unsustainable and will eventually collapse due to its own contradictions. She believed that a revolution was necessary to transform capitalism into socialism.
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Social Reform or Revolution
In her 1899 pamphlet, Social Reform or Revolution?, Luxemburg argued that capitalism’s inner contradictions would lead to its collapse. She believed that trade unions and reformist political parties could not create a socialist society.
The Accumulation of Capital
In her 1913 book, The Accumulation of Capital, Luxemburg argued that capitalism’s constant expansion through trade with non-capitalist countries was necessary. She believed that once this expansion was no longer possible, capitalism would collapse.
The inevitability of collapse
Luxemburg believed that capitalism’s destructiveness would herald its defeat. She believed that the working class would eventually revolt against the rule of capital.-
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ParticipantThere is a large division among members or groups of the US ruling class
January 18, 2025 at 5:30 am in reply to: ICC international online public meeting, 25 January #256267Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantRosa Luxembourg tried to blame the problem on Engels by saying that probably, he changed everything on Volume 2 and 3 of Das Capital.
Engels published those two volumes because the daughter of Marx asked him to do that, and he was one of the few person able to understand Marx handwriting and Marx was a very disorganized person, but Engels was a very organized writer
He published exactly what was written on the manuscripts, he did not alter anything, the problem is that Rosa Luxembourg was mistaken and trying to question Marx she created more problems for herself, and it has been proven that the collapse theory is completely wrong and the main cause of the capitalist crisis is not the fall of the rate of profits, it is overproduction
Frantz Mehring who is one of the best biographers of Marx said that Engels was completely faithful to everything that Marx wrote including his unfinished works. Engels has been the scapegoat on many distortions made on Marx theory
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January 16, 2025 at 2:09 pm in reply to: ICC international online public meeting, 25 January #256245Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantAnyway, this is why decomposition is linked to phenomenon like Trump. The naked idiocy, amoralism and nihilism as well as the decline in the ability of any bourgeois faction to put forward anything like a coherent plan are all an expression of this underlying crisis of capitalism which can not do anything but get worse over time.
————————————————————————————Right wing populism is a world phenomenon and Trump is not the only one. I have seen some places where the whole left has been wiped out completely by the workers and they have elected and selected backward, and reactionary right wing candidates, they do not even care about the immoral characters of the candidates, in traditional terms they can be called lumpens, and crooks, and they have forgotten about everything honestly done in the past by others political groups. This reality is also affecting the minds of the workers
The communist manifesto said it very clearly that the development of capitalism was going to produce all those changes in our society
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ParticipantThere are three groups of Marxist Humanists, and there are some differences among them, and the most active one is the International Marxist Humanist Organization
The one who made more emphasis on the concept of Trumpism is the Marxist Humanist Initiative.
Their definition of Fascism/Nazism is the same one propagated by the Leninists and the Trotskyists.
They do not see fascism/nazism as a particular form adopted by the German and Italian capitalists in order to administer capitalism.
It is the same old idea that all right wings governments and presidential candidates are fascists or Neo fascists, which is totally incorrect, on the contrary, the left has paved the way for the emerge of the right wingers, and Argentina is the best example. All leftwing reforms have failed
I do not think this particular group asked workers to vote for Kamala Harris.
Having academic knowledge, or academia, is not a guarantee for clear understanding of socialism,
I have seen many simple workers who have had a much better understanding and have dedicated their entire life to the cause of socialism
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