Bijou Drains
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I have starting to refer to results of Russian Sanctions on the West, which makes some people I speak to look twice. I am a little sceptical about whether the population of the west will react to sanctions in a way that brings an end to the war. The track record of solving international disputes through the use of sanctions is not good. Iran, the Taliban Regime, Iraq under Saddam, Venezuala, Russia, Cuba, Syria, etc.
Bijou DrainsParticipantRegardless of whether it is from an ecological perspective or not, any organisation that targets bloody golf will get my blessing. Fucking clowns, dressing themselves up like fools and talking shite in the club house, cannot stand them!
Bijou DrainsParticipantFunnily enough in the North East we used to have a high skill and high wage workforce, they were called miners and shipbuilders, I wonder what happened to them?
Bijou DrainsParticipantI prefer a PDF, you can print off a PDF and then sit in the bath and read the Standard, not possible (well not sensible) using a computer.
Bijou DrainsParticipantIs Brexit something we should consider, either for or against. As far as I could see it was a squabble between Big Capital (pro EU) and Small Capital (pro Brexit). Either way the working class get screwed.
Bijou DrainsParticipantHe was Danish, I meant competency in comparison to other Kings of the Anglo Saxon world. I was trying to avoid the term English King, because the boundaries and levels of control of the “English” king were very fluid.
Bijou DrainsParticipantCnut (Cnut the Great) was from 1016 to 1035, not 1500 years ago.
Often seen as pretty competent as an Anglo Saxon king. If his line rather than the Norman line, the UK might have still been part of the Scandinavian world.
Bijou DrainsParticipantI have a vision of lots of conflicted Tory members, all struggling to work out whether their inbuilt sexism is stronger than their on built racism.
Bijou DrainsParticipantThe Liberals might demand electoral reform as part of the package to support a minority government or form a coalition. Might actual get greater support this time around.
One thing that I am sick of hearing is that Johnson won a landslide victory with a huge majority. He won 43.6%, which is a plurality, not a majority and he only won 330,000 more votes than Theresa May.
He only got roughly 14 million votes, from a population of 47.5 million voters, about 29% of the possible votes.
Bijou DrainsParticipantLooks like the bible supports the concept of abortion.
Numbers 5:11-31
“Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray(A) and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her,(B) and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy(C) come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a](D) of barley flour(E) on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy,(F) a reminder-offering(G) to draw attention to wrongdoing.
16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair(H) and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy,(I) while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse.(J) 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray(K) and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse(L) not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray(M) while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse(N)—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water(O) that brings a curse(P) enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”
“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.(Q)”
23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll(R) and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord(S) and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering(T) and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.(U) 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.
29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray(V) and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy(W) come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences(X) of her sin.’”
Bijou DrainsParticipantL Bird- “ Really, lads, if you want to debate politics, you have to debate with what your opponent argues, rather than make up stories, and then argue with those self-made stories.”
So presumably, in your view only males will be involved in political debate and your proposed voting process, a curious democracy you put forward!
Bijou DrainsParticipantMany of the right wing press have been using red herrings by referring to the wages that Train drivers get, it’s not them it is on strike. There’s is a separate dispute.
The Trots, et al are also not mentioning that LNER, Northern Trains and Southeastern trains are in public ownership.
Bijou DrainsParticipantI found the quote from Hardy, it was from Some Aspects of Marxian Economics pg 34
“In Britain the amount of notes in circulation in 1938 was £554 millions. It is now about £5,330 millions. Since 1938 the needed amount has been affected by certain changes, including greater total production (now more than double the 1938 level),
and increased population, which would operate to raise the needed amount of currency. Working in the opposite direction has been the wider use of cheques, etc. and corresponding reduced need for notes and coin”Obviously I was using the same argument about cashless payments that Hardy was with regards to cheques
Bijou DrainsParticipant“For Marx the Quantity Theory was valid only where there was an inconvertible paper currency (as today). In that case if the amount of money was increased the result would indeed be a rise in the general price level.”
But surely that was I was saying (and if I am right that Hardy was saying). i.e. If I keep the Kilgallon billions tucked away under the bed, it isn’t circulating.
In the same way a large amount of cash is resting in the form of money held as effectively cash in hand by the general population. As we move to more cashless societies millions of people hav stopped hanging on larger amounts of cash in hand dues to the fact that you don’t need to have as much. I personally carry far less cash than I used to, I’m sure commercial organisations work in the same way. for example, thinking about pubs, the amount of physical cash stored before banking must have fallen substantially as well as the amount held back in the form of a float. Or am I missing something?
Bijou DrainsParticipantDJP – “My thought on your third one is that the faster the velocity of money, the less of it is needed to do the same volume of transactions within the same period of time – all other things being equal. Faster velocity of circulation just means that the same amount of money is doing more work, not that more money is circulating.”
Surely due to less money being needed to do the same job, this would increase the amount of money being circulated? Is it not that a proportion of the cash that used to be hanging around in wallets, cash registers, down the back of the settee, in piggy banks, etc. is out and about circulating?
A bit like a football team where there used to be 11 players with 5 on the bench, the players on the bench (the cash that was in the wallets, purses, piggy banks, etc.) are now out the pitch.
I’m pretty sure Hardy wrote something about this. It might have been in “Some Aspects of Marxian Economics”, I can’t find my copy of it and I can’t find a PDF on line.
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