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No Doubt the unions have taken the view that the right wing press would have a field day if they didn’t postpone the strikes. Sometimes discretion is the better part of valour
To be fair, ex comrade Marratty put loads of work into youtube sites and other audio visual activities and got stymied on lots of occasions.
I think that a coordinated approach such as a campaigns week where members can work together across electronic media in a cooperative way would be a better approach to this.
I often use the Have Your Say section of the BBC News site, which often stimulates decent discussion, but wich often gets swamped because I am the only one supporting Socialism.
Having three or four members (or more) agreeing to come on line at the same time and concentrate on an agreed group of forums, news sites, social media sites all at the same time, supporting each others comments, adding to the comments, giving each other up votes etc. could be a very succefful strategy.
Thank you so much for your insightful political discourse, your delightful bons mots and for sharing your sparkling intellect (sarcasm alert, sarcasm alert)
Perhaps you should invest some money on a rail ticket that takes you further north than Watford.
Or even more challenging answer the political arguments that challenge your reformist agenda
You clearly don’t “know nothing about me” to quote a phrase, if you think that your puerile comments hit a nerve.
I’m just thrilled to see that you’re as ignorant about culture and geography as you are about politics.
But I suppose it’s better for you to take the Boris Johnson “throw a dead cat on the table” and distract the discussion, rather than discuss your increasingly exposed political position.
Yes Lizzie45, everyone north of Watford spends their time in the pub, apart, of course, from when they’re cleaning out the pigeon loft, exercising their whippets, making black pudding and saying “whey aye pet”
I wonder if you would be as comfortable stereotyping disabled people or people of colour in such a lazy way.
“You know nothing about me”
Well, I know you prefer to dish out distracting insults and obfuscation rather than addressing the arguments.
It also appears that you have not travelled north of Potters Bar.
I know from your postings that you think reforms are worthwhile, despite the evidence.
I can assume that you have no answer to my point that the current fuel emergency is a result of supply side issues and that the actions you suggest will not address this, other wise you would have countered this contention.
I can also assume that your similar silence about the changes to welfare, human rights, etc offered by the Irish state without the need of campaigns you suggest, is for the same reason.
Also, based on your previous posts about former members, I strongly suspect that you were either a member of the SPGB or that you knew the party well at some point in the 1980s – 90s.
I would surmise that this did not end well.
I am however, at a loss to understand, given that you know the SPGBs view on reforms, quite why you would start a post publicising the event you support.
One last thing, if I am correct that you are of a similar vintage to myself, I always feel that using things like LMFAO, LOL, etc. when you reach our age, is a bit like when your granny said things like “groovy” back in the 1960s, you know, just a little bit uncomfortable.
Supporters of reformism, such as Lizzie45, argue that without the campaigns of the labourists and their reformist associates, “Gains” such as welfare reforms, health service support, better unemployment benefits, retirement benefits, union recognition, collective bargaining, equality and diversity reforms, et al, would only have been achieved by Labour Party style campaigns, and that without all of these Labourist campaigns, the working class would have been deprived of these benefits.
Yet the Republic of Ireland, with a long history of highly reactionary and right wing governments, where the Irish Labour Party have a long history of supporting the “Blue Shirt” Fine Gael party, have probably a more “progressive” and worker friendly state than most in Europe. So much so that many, me included, have applied for Irish Citizenship.
Looks to me like they the reformists could have saved their time, money and emotional investment shouting for reforms, the ones that were “achieved” would have been given regardless of their requests.
The term “Uncle Tom” has been used as term to describe those who were passive and docile in terms of slavery. Perhaps we can use the term Lizzie45 to describe someone who is equally accepting of wage slavery.
Your reformist view of the world clearly only covers the warm South. Those of us beyond Lancaster and Sheffield presumably are used to be be bloody freezing, so they know how cope with fuel poverty.
Just to enlighten you, roughly about 2/3rds of the area of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is North of the line between Lancaster and Sheffield. A small point but very revealing.
The problem with this particular reform (and many other reformist solutions) is that the reformists misunderstand the problem!
The high prices for energy have not arisen because of some whim of the ruling class that can be adjusted by a cut in prices. The high price of energy has occured because of a cut of in supply.
If the reform argued for by Lizzie45 and his/her friends occured, consumption would pick up and supply would disappear, so even more social distress, freezing older and vulnerable people. The logic of capitalism is that we ration goods through price. If the reform mongers were arguing for a needs based rational rationing system, where for example, the old and infirm were given bigger rations than the younger and more healthy, I would understand the logic of their argument. Cutting the prices just pushes the problem down the road while until the supply runs out.
I am not saying that high prices are equitable, correct or supportable, just that muddle headed reformism often don’t solve even the limited problems they aim to solve.
