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They call it “Don’t Pay”
But that’s bollocks, what they should really call themselves:
“We’ll pay, just not as much as you want us to”
They describe their movement thus:
Don’t Pay is a grassroots movement demanding a fair price for energy for everyone.
Yet can’t see the irony of their description.
If any movement should describe themselves as “Don’t Pay” is us.
TN – “Lol, now that Finland has joined Putin must be quaking in his boots!”
Finland and Sweden have both joined or are planning to join NATO
Sweden’s defence spending is estimated as $6.7 billion per annum
Finland’s defence spending is estimated as $5.8 billion per annumA total of $12.5 billion
Russia’s defence spending is estimated as $66 billion per annum.
The increase in NATO’s spending is therefore nearly 1/5th of the total amount of defence spending included in NATO’s budget.
Not unsubstantial.
The USSR had a history of underestimating the capability of Finland’s armed forces. You might look at The Winter War. (Your hero Stalin was happy to cooperate with your hated Nazis and their arms blockage of Finland)
Simple question for you TN
As an “Anti imperialist” is it possible for Nato to reform itself to become an anti imperialist body. Many of the countries in Nato have no significant history of what you would describe as imperialism (for example Poland, Luxemburg, Czech Republic, Solvakia, Norway, etc.) would it not be possible for Nato to become in your terms anti imperialist?Ts “Bojo’s Brain Fart is still playing dress ups as a Tween Vogue pseudo-scientist.”
Just keep on denying the science mate, keep hurling insults, keep decending into the dark triad.
Denial or abnegation is a psychological defence mechanism first put forward by psychoanalyst Freud and furhter researched by his daughter Anna Freud. In the use of denial a person is faced with a fact that is “too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.”
Interesting refutation of the price/wage spiral myth, from Thatcher’s favourite economist:
True Narcissist – There are several news reports reporting a weakening of support from China. No doubt you’ll dismiss them as Guradian lies and rely on the pro authoritarian rabble you admire so much.
TN “pretend you’re a Tween Vogue pseudo-scientist?”
The information I have provided for you, regarding NPD (free of charge, I might add!) is based not on “pseudo science” but on the clinical diagnostic manuals the DSM 5 and it’s world wide equivalent ICD-11.
ICD-11, describes NPD in a similar way to the DSM 5:
“A disorder characterized by an enduring pattern of grandiose beliefs and arrogant behavior together with an overwhelming need for admiration and a lack of empathy for (and even exploitation of) others.
Personality disorder characterized by excessive self-love, egocentrism, grandiosity, exhibitionism, excessive needs for attention, and sensitivity to criticism.”You might note particularly the phrase “sensitivity to criticism”, your display of this feature is on going and very apparent.
You might care to note that ICD -11 is the recognised diagnostic manual used in your beloved China and Russia.
If it’s “pseudo science” perhaps you can explain the Chinese view on it, as described in the link below:
ICD-11 Implementation in China: Interview with Dr. Min Zhao and Dr. Jiang Long
As to linking this to your presentation, you’re doing the work for me with every post. You literally can’t help yourself.
TS “Who’s gonna be offended by that? Lol”
From:
“Empathy in Narcissistic Personality Disorder: From Clinical and Empirical Perspectives:Arielle Baskin-Sommers, Elizabeth Krusemark, and Elsa Ronningstam”
Narcissism and empathy have long been considered interrelated. From the early clinical conceptualizations of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) to the introduction of NPD in the DSM–III (APA, 1980), impaired empathic processing has been considered a hallmark of pathological narcissism and NPD (Adler, 1986; Akhtar, 1989, 2003; Cooper, 1998; Kernberg, 1983, 1985; Kohut, 1966; Ronningstam, 2005; Watson, Grisham, Trotter, & Biderman, 1984; Watson & Morris, 1991). Most often, “lack of empathy” is included as a signifier of the diagnosis and is highlighted in both the clinician’s and lay public’s impression of narcissistic individuals.
Moreover, a growing body of work indicates that several factors (e.g., low self-esteem, sense of internal control, self-enhancement, emotion intolerance, self-centeredness) may cooccur and affect the narcissistic individual’s empathic capability and functional pattern (Campbell, Reeder, Sedikides, & Elliot, 2000; Fonagy, Gergle, Jurist, & Target, 2002; Fonagy & Luyten, 2009; Fonagy, Steele, Steele, Moran, & Higgitt, 1991; Nezlek, Schutz, Lopes, & Smith, 2007; Ronningstam, 2009; Schore, 1994; Watson, Little, Sawrie, & Biderman, 1992). This accumulation of evidence spurred the description of empathic dysfunction to change from the inability to recognize how others feel in the DSM–III classification, to the unwillingness to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others in DSM–IV. Some narcissistic individuals may have intact empathic ability, but choose to disengage from others’ pain or distress, while others may have a deficient ability in the recognition of others’ feelings.
MS, You are correct, the only riposte that True Narcissist has is to hurl insults (usually fairly witless and banal). In these insults he “points out” the intellectual failings of others. The sub text of this message is that he is the special one, the one everyone should be in awe of, as I said, the all powerful Wizard of Oz.
Although in the many years of reading and contributing to this forum there have been disputes between posters, sometimes ending in hot blooded arguments, leading to insults, etc. True Narcissist is the only one who has resorted to childish name calling, this says a lot about him.
This is highly predictable considering his psychopathalogical profile which clearly displays signs of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
It is important however not to get angry, beneath TN’s attempt to show us all that he is a big and powerful intellectual force, which links to the powerful allies (Stalin, Mao, Putin, et al), he does not realise that he is actually exposing for all to see, his true self: a small, frightened, intimidated child.
He genuinely deserves our pity, not our anger.
Reports have come in of a missile strike just over the border into Poland. Russians are saying it was the Ukranians, Ukrannians saying it was the Russians. The one thing that no one is denying is that two members of the working class died.
Hopefully this will not lead to further escalation and greater loss of life.
Alan, did you not know, the war is going swimmingly for the Russians, the Chinese “communist” Party supports Russia’s war aims and Russia is going to cleanse Ukraine of Nazis.
The proof of this is that the all powerful Wizard of Oz (aka True Narcissist) says so!
This is all the proof anyone would need!
Even when TN is wrong, he’s always right.
All hail the great leader True Narcissist!!!
Further evidence that True Narcissist’s “anti imperialist coalition” exists only in his own fevered mind:
“Together with President Xi Jinping, we call for respect for the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine,” Emmanuel Macron, the French President, tweeted early on Tuesday after a meeting with Xi.
Many news outlets are reporting critical comments from the Chinese about Putin and the Russian conduct of the war. Seems like True Narcissist’s “anti imperialist coalition” of Russia and China is coming apart a little as the Chinese state and Biden start to cosying up to each other (all in the best interests of profit).
Obviously as TN will no doubt confirm, it’s all fake news and inspired by the CIA, etc. etc. etc.
Good job we have TN to keep us informed about the true course of Socialist progress, otherwise we might start to think that the Chinese “Communist” Party was an elite grouping who were only interested in the accumulation of capital and the exploitation of surplus value.
You’re spot on TM, it’s the same thing in many ways. With the conspiraloons they have “more insight” and “special knowledge” which sets them apart from the rest of the world.
If you look at the similarities in behaviour between True Narcissist and Donald Trump, they are striking.
Anything that doesn’t support their view of the world is “fake news”, people who disagree with them are devalued by comparing them to people they consider to be of low social value, hence using terms like “retarded” as a form of insult. Promoting the fact that they have special insight that no others have. One of the most noticeable similarities is changing someone’s name into an insult. Trump has begun calling Ron DeSantos, Ron Desanctimonious. Remind anyone of someone?
True Narcissist – “Bojo’s Brain, back to the pages of Tween Vogue are we? While you’re at it, what’s my
Horoscope have to say today? I’m an Aquarium. Lol”True Narcissist – “Hehe, thank you Lizzie but it was a joke. When at a circus it’s hard not to act the clown.”
I quote directly from my last posting –
“The person with NPD will flatly deny having any of the identified personality traits, dismiss and challenge the concept of NPD and call the whole process a waste of time, whilst reiterating the “special” nature of their personality.”Sadly TN, you are so predictable.
The following guidance on treating people with NPD gives a little insight into the real self of people with this condition:
“No matter how obnoxiously narcissists behave, it’s important to remember that their self-aggrandizement almost always covers up painful longings for true connection, intimacy, and a sense that they’re “good enough.” In fact, rather than being purely entitled and spoiled, most narcissists are wounded, deprived, and avoidant, burdened with unattended loneliness and shame”
Alan, trying to attempt to argue with True Narcissist will always be like trying to mail jelly to the ceiling.
For example
TN- “Neither countries were or are imperialist so I reject the framing of your question.”The whole nature and presentation of Narcissistic Personality Disorder is based on denial of intrapersonal reality.
TN cannot accept the possibility of anything he says or asserts being incorrect, because if he does accept that he is not all powerful and all correct the whole intrapersonal edifice of his personality schema, in effect his whole ego system collapses.
Therefore, any fact, statistic or information, which contradicts his world is simply denied. ((Denial is the strongest “ego defence mechanism” available)
People with NPD often associate themselves with organisations and collectives that project power.
This reinforces their belief system which is built on their self perception of their own “specialness”.
In most cases the narcissists, often elaborately and ostentatiously demonstrate their “specialness” by showing to all that they support or are part of organisations that appear to be successful and through this the narcissist feels ego support for their internal view of their own high status and “specialness”
A manifestation of this might be by letting everyone know they support a highly successful sports team (I have come across individuals with NPD that have changed the sports team they support to a more successful team and then deny that they ever supported the original team!)
For True Narcissist, he has clearly associated himself with the Chinese Communist Party and other associated movements (Stalinism, Pol Pot, Putin, etc.). The inconsistency between the positions he supports (for example the Sino Soviet dispute) will be papered over by the usual Denial defence mechanism. (It didn’t happen, it is a CIA plot, the person who pointed out the fact is “smooth brained”, etc.)
The fact that the military machine that TN has hitched his wagon to (Putin’s Army) is turning out to be less powerful than predicted, will also also be denied and furthermore he will conjure up in his imagination an even more dreadful and all consuming demonstration of the powerfulness of his ally, Putin’s army (and by association himself) and in his fantasy world, all will tremble at the feet of Putin (i.e. his fantasy self)
The presentation of people with NDP is sometimes described as “Wizard of Oz Syndrome”. In the story the Wizard presents as being the all powerful and terrible ruler of the Kingdom of Oz, however in reality the “wizard” is a frightened little man hiding behind his screen of tricks and loud microphone.
The link below is quite an interesting exposition of the syndrome
Of course TN will respond by denial, dismissal of the existence of NPD (“it’s all psychobabble”), vicious attacks on anyone who has identified him as having NPD, denial of that person’s expertise, name calling, etc. (we have already experienced these traits). In a sense this reinforces the diagnosis.
Interestingly, when diagnosing a person as having NPD one of the first thing that is done is to explain to the person what NPD is and what the characteristics are.
As we all have at least a small number of these traits, a person who has not got NPD will recognise some of the traits and acknowledge these traits, whilst also recognising the areas where they don’t fit in with the diagnostic criteria.
The person with NPD will flatly deny having any of the identified personality traits, dismiss and challenge the concept of NPD and call the whole process a waste of time, whilst reiterating the “special” nature of their personality.
The genesis of NPD is often early ego trauma and negligent or neglectful parenting, or conversely being parented in a highly indulgent way, never challenging the child over their behaviour or opinions.
So in a long winded way, I am saying that attempting to try undertake rational discussion with TN is pissing into the wind.
We do need to challenge the irrational nonsense he puts out, but we will not get any further.
On the plus side, if TN is spending his time churning up his usual self inflated rubbish, at least his family and friends (if he’s got any) are probably getting a well deserved break, so in that sense we are undertaking a socially useful activity.
