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KeymasterYes, as earlier this year here:
Not quite as bad as the German Greens who, when in government until a few months ago, were real war-mongers.
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Keymaster“As many of you know, I joined the Greens a few months ago to vote for Zack Polanski. He’s run a brilliant campaign on an eco-socialist platform and I’m really happy to have been a vocal supporter.”
Here’s his online election campaign material. I can’t see anything socialist in it but he evidently thinks a lot of himself.
Interview with him in Socialist Worker here:
Interview with Zack Polanski: ‘Movement building is incredibly important’
Grace Blakely says: “It seems clear that Corbyn, Sultana, and the Greens will form an electoral pact along the lines of the left bloc in France – any other strategy would be absurd factionalism.”
It doesn’t seem that clear round where I live. Here the Greens have an electoral pact with the LibDems. All 5 Green councillors have been elected in 3-member wards where, by angreement, only 2 LibDems and 1 Green stood. But I suppose an electoral bloc between the Greens, the Corbynites and the LibDems could be imagined. All reformists together.
August 1, 2025 at 10:35 am in reply to: Editorial on Israel-Iran War in July Socialist Standard #259903ALB
KeymasterIf the state of Israel that the zionists had set up in Palestine had not been backed and built up militarily by the US for its own purposes, its rulers would have been forced to compromise with the neighbouring states and something different might have emerged. Maybe something like Lebanon, where different “communities” have managed to co-exist more or less peacefully for most of the time. Certainly Israel would not have been able to develop nuclear weapons and bomb all its neighbours with impunity.
But this is just speculation and we are where we are.
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KeymasterOne Trotsky group that won’t be infiltrating the new party — the “Socialist” Equality Party:
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KeymasterHow do you know?
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KeymasterA step too far back from the digital?
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KeymasterComment on the Talking About Socialism website:
“In Facebook discussions on the New party there is already an intolerence towards Socialists and communists from the supporters of a lowest common denominator old Labour politics for the new party. This party is not for you or is not your bag and so on. And this comes from people arguing for a broad party, but not broad enough for Socialist and communists.
As Communists/Socialists we do not go with the Social Democratic flow. We campaign to persuade members of the party to become Socialist/Communists and attempt to make the politics of the new Party Socialist. The nostalgia for the welfare state and the post war settlement will not be political effective. The political and economic circumstances are vastly different today.
Talking vaguely about Public ownership without specifying its nature and extent is an unrealistic attempt, to repeat the limited state ownership of some sectors of the economy while leaving the rest of the economy in Capitalist hands. Again this is totally inadequate to deal with failing British Capitalism. The aim should be to abolish Capitalism not manage it.“
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KeymasterJeremy Corbyn’s pipe dream (from yesterday’s Guardian):
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/29/jeremy-corbyn-labour-failed-politics-new-party
The original tweet announcing the new party stated:
“We will only fix the crises in our society with a mass redistribution of wealth and power. That means taxing the very richest in our society.”
In his article Corbyn is placing the emphasis on redistributing power rather than wealth and writes only of making “the wealthiest in society pay a bit more in tax to ensure that everyone can live in dignity”.
Since dividing up even all of the wealth of the wealthiest wouldn’t increase that of each member of the population by very much, no wonder he emphasises redistributing power, which is not quite so nebulous.
But, given the continuation of capitalism, who makes the decisions is the not the most important factor but what capitalism obliges the decision-makers, whoever they are and however they are chosen, to decide.
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KeymasterThe Tories must be pretty desperate if they are aiming to emulate Milei to try to regain popularity:
The Anarcho-capitalists who infiltrated and virtually took over the Young Conservatives in the 1980s and 90s will be pleased (that is, if they are still Anarcho-capitalists).
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KeymasterOn the contrary. It was Trotsky himself who initiated this in 1934 when he instructed his followers to “enter” the French equivalent of the Labour Party (not all of them obeyed):
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KeymasterSPEW too, via its front organisation TUSC, has decided to “enter” the new party. Note that some 275,000 have signed up so far.
It’s on! New party call hits 275k sign-ups in 24 hours. Join the fightback now!
For a good criticism of their approach — they want to revive the old Labour Party —
see:“History does not repeat itself except as farce. The SP attempt to replicate the formation of the Labour Party is futile and uninspired. A trade union party or born-again Labourism, rather than a socialist party which aims to abolish capitalism, would take us back to the failures of the past and not carry us forward to a socialist future.”
Not sure, though, that it can be said that the ILP “initiated” the Labour Party.
July 26, 2025 at 7:40 am in reply to: Day meeting on building a mass communist party Saturday 8 February #259796ALB
KeymasterAndrew Northall continues his attempt in the letters column of the Weekly Worker to demonstrate that the world is not yet ripe for socialism but must first pass through a long period of state capitalism that as a Leninist (Stalinist variety) he miscalls “socialism”. (A view, incidentally, exposed in a further letter from someone in some Turkish group as a distortion of what Marx envisaged )
Anyway here it is:
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KeymasterThe SWP is already marshalling its members and supporters to “enter” the new party:
“Socialist Worker hopes that a new left alternative is a broad and pluralist umbrella, which the revolutionary left can be part of and stand candidates under. (…)
Socialist Worker supporters should sign up for updates at yourparty.uk”Can left seize time after Corbyn and Sultana announce new party?
So is the RCP:
“The RCP calls on all our supporters and readers to throw their weight behind this new venture, and to get organised with us to help equip this party and movement with the revolutionary programme needed to bring about “real change” (…) The immediate task for socialists and communists is to sign up to Corbyn and Sultana’s party, enthusiastically promote it, get stuck in, and help channel this energy towards revolutionary aims.”
https://communist.red/corbyn-and-sultanas-party-takes-off-the-system-is-rigged-fight-for-revolution/
Watch out for more Trotskyist groups issuing in the coming days similar calls to “enter” the proposed new party.
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KeymasterHere’s the latest statement from Corbyn and Sultana:
https://x.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1948343121839825056
Fairly moderate Old Labour stuff.
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KeymasterNot all wage workers produce surplus value. An obvious example is a servant working in the household of a capitalist or aristocrat. All workers produce something (some use-value) but not all workers produce value and so no surplus value.
There is a bit of a semantic argument here as in Marxian economics the definition of “productive” is a worker who produces surplus value. So, by definition, a “nonproductive” worker is a worker who doesn’t produce value and it would be a contradiction to say that a “non-produtive” produced surplus value — if they did, they would be a productive not a non-productive worker.
A “non-productive” worker may not be exploited for surplus value but they can still provide their employer will surplus labour, as this article explains:
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