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Well you are, which is one of the things I like about your group. I can trust and count on it, even if I don't agree 100% (which I don't. A market will pop up, it just has to be kept small and democratically controlled. I also think incremental reforms and unions are important. It's not that hard keeping them from having a palliative effect (unfortunately) ). You never know, there might end up being enough for a tipping point. I doubt it too , but no one knows.
I just haven't read any posts here that seem to be from women, so wondered how many you might have here or internationally. AS for the rest I may take up the argument later.
I wasn't advocating them I was asking about them, but got my answers. i don't have a problem u taking it down.
My sympathies. I hope you do a pamphlet on why, that at some point they are crowded out by for-profits if they dont fade on their own."ceding control of 70% to bondholders – led by two US hedge funds "Complicty, force or bungling still shouldn't have happened.
Thanks for the clarification. Whew. I caught the devils horns, but Adam wrote "in which one of our members features" which needed clarification.
"followed by democratic organisation." Keep working on that. I've been looking at all the socialist/communist/anarchist groups I can find. One main thing you all have in common is differentiating yourselves from the other groups and/or bashing each other. Herding cats. This works out great for those opposed to a socialist uprising.
I hope this is not a typical interpretation of what Brand is saying It's just one person's comment. chill.
An alternative analysis would take a book, but there was communism in 'primitive' societies, so capitalism wasn't necessary.Small point but I realized your caps were for emphasis, my point being I didn't need the emphasis, I'm not that dense and you don't need to propagandize.I shouldn't have posted the lack of independent thought etc. Was an ad hominem statement, but I am frustrated by the overall dogmatic statements and repeating of statements that really aren't supported by empirical evidence in this group.I agree on some points of WSM and some will have to agree to disagree. I would hope more on the left or far left, or 'our definition of what we are' will coordinate together, without capitulating to essential points like not having a vanguard which then goes on to dictate to all.
Poverty isn't the same as hunger as you seem to say later in your post, so huh? Aside from that, all the above keeps addressing hunger as the issue about overpopulation and that we're not overpopulated because we can feed everyone, my point washunger is not an issue, other things are.I think, even if there is scarcity of some things, and there is, economic democracy is still a better way. Marx doesn't have to be right about everything and all your assumptions don't have to be right, for socialism to be a better alternative. I'm cranky today, but would still think so if I weren't.
I hope more ppl reply, tho don't expect it, but in reply to: "But who, or what, were the drivers of this technological advancement? The assembly line, etc etc. It was the Capitalist system, ensuring that productive methods were even more, profitable. It was in the interests of Capitalists to do this." You are buying into the same drivel capitalists use to justify capitalism. And you keep twisting to make Marx right. People have tried to refine and improve upon invention and production probably from day one, certainly for millenia. It is in our nature, our capability. Better yields, better tools, better mousetrap. Engineers, inventors and people who care about efficiency like me do it beause we want to, are even driven to. But yes I'd rather do it for all of humanity, than just the people who can pay me. The rest is just you spouting the party line, which , btw, I understand and agree with. Caps weren't necessary. Thou doth protest too much. A little more independent thought wouldn't hurt, either.
I agree poverty from politics and economic system. I'm some kind of socialist. But still didn't source Twistedsifter, whom I've never heard of. How stuff works, not necessarily reliable.Not shortage of hands, shortage of rain, pestilence, fertilizer, taxing soil.HAven't studied the carrying capacity issue in 10 years, but was more than just about food, as above.Energy shortage alone evidenced by China and US competing (and warring in the case of US). Yes, if not for profit we would have added renewables and alternatives 30 years ago. sigh
Probably shouldn't bother posting this but…I'm no authority, scholar, but it wasn't capitalism. Only thing wasn't plentiful was food due to famines and that was improved by the green revolution, which can't really be attributed to capitalism, was science which would have gone on. Before capitalism and mass production had (too much) clothing, shelter. Can have plenty of education, some medical.Even in feudalism, they were reinvesting. Building a better mousetrap dates to before 6000 years ago.It has always been about might creating inequality.Not much independent thinking, not much using empirical evidence here.
