World Cup
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December 8, 2022 at 10:36 pm #237542
james19
ParticipantSadly the execution begin. Despite Iranian players protests.
Iran begins executing anti-regime protesters
December 10, 2022 at 11:27 pm #237806alanjjohnstone
KeymasterHistory in the making with Morocco in the semi-finals.
Still no account in the media of history already being made with Morroco’s colonialism in the Western Sahara.
But our African blog knows its history
https://socialistbanner.blogspot.com/2022/11/the-forgotten-sahrawi-arab-democratic.html
But it isn’t the only occasion the media has a memory lapse
https://socialistbanner.blogspot.com/2022/12/is-uk-stealing-gas.html
December 10, 2022 at 11:54 pm #237807alanjjohnstone
KeymasterAnother bit of history
At the onset of the Spanish Civil War, Franco arrived from Morocco with tens of thousands of Moorish troops under his command.
If the Spanish Republic had given Morocco its independence, many historians suggest that the Moors would not have followed Franco.
But the Republic believed granting Morroco its independence would swing the other colonial powers, Britain and France against it. As it turned out, these two countries were sympathetic to Franco anyways.
December 10, 2022 at 11:58 pm #237808alanjjohnstone
KeymasterYet another item of interest.
The Spanish have always objected to Britain retaining its tiny spot of territory in Spain- Gibraltar.
Yet Spain is happy to keep sovereignty over the cities of Ceuta and Melilla in Morocco
December 11, 2022 at 12:07 am #237809alanjjohnstone
KeymasterEU politicians arrested over Qatar corruption charges
A European Parliament vice-president and four others linked to Qatar suspected of influencing the decisions of the European Parliament through cash payments or gifts.
December 11, 2022 at 1:31 am #237810alanjjohnstone
KeymasterIf anybody wishes to link a new blog on Morocco
https://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2022/12/moroccos-goal-in-western-sahara.html
December 11, 2022 at 9:23 am #237816ALB
KeymasterMaybe but they knocked out a NATO team (Portugal) so making an all non-NATO final theoretically possible. But for that they need to beat France. It looks like the main hope for delivering your karma to NATO, for engineering the exclusion of Russia and arming the Ukranian nasties, will be Argentina.
December 11, 2022 at 9:34 am #237817alanjjohnstone
KeymasterThe team I had a sentimental soft spot for having once visited the country in the 70s was eco-friendly Costa Rica which abolished its army in 1948.
But alas, the underdogs never progressed
December 12, 2022 at 5:14 pm #237845rodshaw
Participant“Maybe but they knocked out a NATO team (Portugal) so making an all non-NATO final theoretically possible. But for that they need to beat France. It looks like the main hope for delivering your karma to NATO, for engineering the exclusion of Russia and arming the Ukranian nasties, will be Argentina.”
I don’t see the point being anti-Nato any more than being anti-Russia.
Politically, Argentina can hardly claim any moral high ground. And this bunch of Argentinian players have been pretty nasty. They jeered at the Dutch players after the shootout and Messi swore at one of them in a live interview.
Pretty much all footballing nations have nasty politics behind them. Even if they don’t, of course they are still part of this awful capitalist system. Which is why I just want the team that plays the best footie to win. Failing that, an underdog. As long as it’s not on penalties.
December 14, 2022 at 8:51 am #237897ALB
KeymasterIf anybody wishes to link a new blog on Morocco
https://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2022/12/moroccos-goal-in-western-sahara.html
Just got round to reading this and a bit surprised at this passage:
“Despite the Sahrawi people’s right to self-determination and their right to control their resources and international criticism foreign nations are signing trade deals with Morocco. Nations.” (my emphasis)
This can’t be right as we have always rejected the so-called “right to self-determination” as the “right” of a would-be ruling class to control the resources and rule over the people of an area.
I hope it is not too late to correct this slip.
December 14, 2022 at 9:49 am #237899alanjjohnstone
KeymasterRe-edited to read “Despite the Sahrawi people’s claim to self-determination and for control of the resources and international criticism, foreign nations are signing trade deals with Morocco.”
I have still to read any media coverage of Morocco’s colonial ambitions for the region and its resource grabbing. Perhaps I have missed it.
As with Saudi Arabia’s involvement in the World Cup and its executions during it, the only political criticism was centered on Iran.
December 16, 2022 at 10:39 pm #238046ALB
KeymasterFIFA reportedly redeems itself a bit after originally giving in to pressure from NATO countries to mix politics with sport and ban Russia from the World Cuo:
https://www.teletrader.com/amp/news/details/59152836
This would be the first rebuff this war leader has had to drum up support for his side in the war.
December 17, 2022 at 6:14 am #238059alanjjohnstone
KeymasterAs the World Cup reaches its climax, the French right denigrates the immigrant members of the team
“Immigrants are over-represented in the French national team in the World Cup,” a far-right politician has said adding, “I do not think this team represent France”.
Marion Marechal is the niece of far-right politician Marine Le Pen, and belongs to the recently formed Reconquête party, whose name refers to Spain’s “Reconquista” period when Christians drove Muslim rulers out of the country.
December 17, 2022 at 9:25 pm #238081alanjjohnstone
KeymasterDavid Beckham rewarded by millions for being an apologist for Qatar rationalises his role tells a US newspaper through a spokesperson that he “has always believed that sport has the power to be a force for good in the world”.
“We understand that there are different and strongly held views about engagement in the Middle East but see it as positive that debate about the key issues has been stimulated directly by the first World Cup being held in the region,” the statement continued.
It added: “We hope that these conversations will lead to greater understanding and empathy toward all people and that progress will be achieved.”
December 17, 2022 at 10:27 pm #238082ALB
KeymasterIf states were to be banned from hosting or playing because of their records on human rights, war etc there might only be Costa Rica, Faroes and a few south sea islands left to compete.
The whole boycott idea is illogical because where do you draw the line will always be an issue. Either boycott them all or boycott none of them.
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