Women’s marches
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January 21, 2017 at 4:18 pm #85242
Young Master Smeet
ModeratorThese are certainly impressive: I caught the dispersal of the London one, and it was almost a continuation march in itself, as waves poured out of Trafalgar Sqaure, certainly been a big one.
The impressive thing is the level of international co-ordination, in cities around the world as a sort of Mexican wave of protest.
London figures put at 80K, which is pretty impressive, and marches in other cities in UK too.
Lets not gforget how women protestors stared down the right-wing Polish government.
January 21, 2017 at 4:30 pm #124433Young Master Smeet
ModeratorLow on time, here's the Women's Marchs' demands:https://www.womensmarch.com/principles
January 22, 2017 at 2:07 am #124434Anonymous
InactiveThe ruling class has not been able to brainwash the minds of women as they have done with men
January 22, 2017 at 9:58 am #124435Anonymous
InactiveWomen have plenty to get angry about.Take the film industry, for example, which portrays women as expendable pieces of meat, to be subjected to rape, torture and gratuitous murder scenes: from "Game of Thrones" like series, to the latest block busters.In the Guardian, Victoria Coren Mitchell tears into the latest, multi-awarded anti-women film, "Nocturnal Animals":"So, if you haven’t seen it, I’m afraid the rest of this paragraph is going to spoil the excitement of the “will they/won’t they” moment. Will the women be raped? They will! Will they be murdered? They will!"…"So, you know. If you’re the kind of person who is excited by dead, naked women, then the fear scene will be massively improved by my having told you what’s coming. Now you won’t have to rewind after the corpse scene to enjoy it properly – we all know how tricky it can be to time a scroll-back during effective pornography. Pressing the button can really put you off your stride, can’t it? So, have this one on me! Enjoy the dread, the sobbing, the terrified and hopeless maternal embrace: rape is definitely coming, death is definitely coming and you’ll get to see those corpses! With blood smeared carefully on the bums!"And who gets the Baftas, the awards – not the female actors:"So why is it nominated for nine Baftas? Squeamish Tom gets the nod for best director and best screenplay. The male leads are nominated for acting (while the brilliant trio of Amy Adams, Isla Fisher and Laura Linney, who all give wonderful performances, get nothing. Sweet Amy Adams is what they get).It’s up for best music, best editing. And then, lest we fail to appreciate the full visual joy of these fat hags and dead babes, there are nominations for production design, cinematography, hair and makeup. Mwah, darling! Looking fabulous!The reviewers found it beautiful to a man – and I use the term advisedly.“What surface! What sheen!” raved Mark Kermode in this paper, praising the film’s “strangely seductive power”.“Intoxicating, provocative, delicious,” purred Robbie Collin in the Telegraph.Peter Bradshaw, in the Guardian, salivated over a more specific “kind of toxic deliciousness”.A double-rape movie! Yum bloody yum."Victoria has cause to be angry.https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/22/nocturnal-animal-film-rape-murder-repulsive
January 22, 2017 at 10:52 am #124436imposs1904
ParticipantCrowd Estimates
January 23, 2017 at 11:13 am #124437Anonymous
InactiveWhat next after the women’s marches?Marches mean nothing unless practical gains in understanding, organisation and action spring from them.Part of the understanding is to link women’s issues to the wider issues of the 95%, to realise the class nature of society. This essential point seems difficult for many to grasp – even to want to start trying to understand. For example, there is a lot of talk among some groups about the evil influence of “banks” – as if banks can be seen in isolation to their role within capitalism.What difference did “Occupy Wall Street” and the “Arab Spring” make? Loads of young people were out on the streets for both, and at least on the surface of things, they came to nothing.Many spirited Arab women joined in the spring demonstrations, only to face sexual attacks from their male “comrades-in-arms” – so big gaps in understanding from some members of these crowds.Looking further back, to the “flower power”, anti-war awakenings of the sixties – those ideas soon faded and were replaced by generations of money making yuppies.Are we doomed to forever experience these “awakenings”, only for the camaraderie and global movements to fizzle out, leaving no trace on our political lives?
January 23, 2017 at 4:23 pm #124438Anonymous
InactiveThis movement will not have any future if it is not linked to the class struggle and to the class character of the capitalist society it is not a sexual confrotation between women and menThis is like the case of the afro American who believe that their main problem is race and the solution is electing black leaders., senators and governors, but they also become capitalist loversDuring the war in. Iraq millions of people's went to the streets and they did not link capitalist market with war and nationalism, and the movement diedThe main problem in the USA is that the concept of class struggle and division has been erased completely from the books of history. It is a brotherhood between capitalist and proletarian
January 24, 2017 at 8:52 am #124439Anonymous
InactiveWriting in the Guardian yesterday, Paul Mason has hopes of this movement being kept alive:"But events such as this alter people’s lives. They thrust big and complicated political questions into lives of routinely depoliticised people.""Saturday was, above all else, the sound of the progressive middle classes rejecting what’s good for the employers and embracing what’s good for the people.""Winnie Wong, a key figure in organising the march told me: “The beauty of the Women’s March as a fledgling movement, which is now both decentralised and already global in scale, is that it will be very hard for any one institution to co-opt the messaging. This creates headaches for the bad actors in the influential spheres of the Democratic party who have helped to build the neoliberal institutions which are culpable for driving the slow erosion of our democracy.”"https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/23/millions-have-done-something-together-why-the-womens-march-will-spark-the-resistance
January 24, 2017 at 2:07 pm #124440Anonymous
InactiveRight on cue, President Trump blocks abortion funding for US NGOs abroad:http://www.france24.com/en/20170124-trump-blocks-abortion-funding-ngos-abroad-usa-womens-rightsThis will of course lead to an increase in women having unsafe abortions, so more women will die.The hypocrisy of people like Trump amaze me; they champion the right to life of a tiny foetus, but have no compunction about sending people to their deaths in war.
January 24, 2017 at 7:45 pm #124441jondwhite
ParticipantI blame Mike Pence and the 'pro-life' position being in fact all about being 'anti-women' and stopping women controlling their lives.
January 24, 2017 at 8:00 pm #124442Anonymous
Inactivejondwhite wrote:I blame Mike Pence and the 'pro-life' position being in fact all about being 'anti-women' and stopping women controlling their lives.All our problems are socially produced, they are not produced by an individual
January 26, 2017 at 1:09 pm #124443rodmanlewis
Participantmcolome1 wrote:jondwhite wrote:I blame Mike Pence and the 'pro-life' position being in fact all about being 'anti-women' and stopping women controlling their lives.All our problems are socially produced, they are not produced by an individual
I agree. Enough women have the vote to enable themselves, if they so wished, to change the world so that they can have a full say in what happens to them.
January 26, 2017 at 4:27 pm #124444jondwhite
Participantrodmanlewis wrote:mcolome1 wrote:jondwhite wrote:I blame Mike Pence and the 'pro-life' position being in fact all about being 'anti-women' and stopping women controlling their lives.All our problems are socially produced, they are not produced by an individual
I agree. Enough women have the vote to enable themselves, if they so wished, to change the world so that they can have a full say in what happens to them.
Well just as we wouldn't expect revolutionaries to seek reform, nor should we expect reformists to seek revolution.
January 26, 2017 at 9:38 pm #124445Bijou Drains
Participantmcolome1 wrote:jondwhite wrote:I blame Mike Pence and the 'pro-life' position being in fact all about being 'anti-women' and stopping women controlling their lives.All our problems are socially produced, they are not produced by an individual
that's not what "my beloved" would say. According to her all of her problems are caused by a single individual, me!
January 27, 2017 at 5:27 pm #124446Anonymous
InactiveAny Gender Binarian comes near my kids I swear I'll do time.
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