What next?
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February 25, 2014 at 8:52 pm #82711ALBKeymaster
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/25/conservatives-workers-party-rebrand
The Eton mess that make up most of the cabinet "workers"? The members of Bullingdon Club must be having a joke.
February 26, 2014 at 3:50 am #100201northern lightParticipantIn 2010, his manifesto flagship policy was, The Big Society May 2010, he promises to put green issues at the top of the agenda, making his govt. the greenest ever. 2011, following riots, a broken society is top of his political agenda. 2012, Olympics in London will give Britain's economy a £13 billion boost 2013, reportedly tells his aids to, "get rid of all the green crap." 2014, fracking will boost the economy. 2014, money no object for flood relief. 24 hours later a No.10 source confirms, no extra money would be found. Professional liar comes to mind
February 26, 2014 at 8:19 am #100202steve colbornParticipantYou could also add, that Cambo and the coalitiion promised a sporting legacy, post Olympics! Well we certanly have that, what with the selling off of school playing fields and in Seaham in particular, a "new Secondary school, but with no swimming pool to replace the old one when Northlea school is bulldozed!Well, at least we'll still have the "playing fields of Eton" to rely upon and our "betters" will be fit, if there is a re run of WW1. Only problems is, they will be miles ahead of the plebs, when the battle is joined!
February 26, 2014 at 10:54 am #100203jondwhiteParticipantWhat is a workers party anyway? Various definitions have been put forward, particularly by Old Labour supporters, most of which are so meaningless as could equally apply to the Conservatives.One that workers elect?In the last general election in 2010, 10,703,654 voted (out of an electorate of 46,107,152) for the Conservatives, which was more than any other party.One that workers join?In 2013, the Conservatives reported 134,000 members (against Labour's 187,000).One with policies that workers want?Many workers would say they want low prices and low taxes. This may be a democratic wish but it is spurious.One that trade unions affilate to with special voting privileges?Trade unions are sectional bodies existing to better conditions for their members, which political party trade unions support is not indicative of the interests of the working-class as a whole.The only definition that would be any use is a workers party is one that is in the interests of the working class. For me that is the SPGB.What this Tory rebrand really means is they know that society is divided between classes, but that they regard the role of the working-class as voting-fodder in the biggest bloc possible in the same way Labour has done in the past and does do in the present.
February 26, 2014 at 11:58 am #100204ALBKeymasterWhen in the 1960s all the Trot groups told us we should join Labour as "the mass party of the working class" we used to refer them to Catholic Church.
February 26, 2014 at 1:33 pm #100205jondwhiteParticipantHow about a 'workers party' as supporting those that are 'hard-working'? This gets claimed which could be a reasonable definition of a 'workers party'. If the Tories want this definition then they can have it. All that would really mean though is they are pro-wage slavery and the lower the price of wages the more people in wage-slavery or these days zero-hours-no-wage slavery. I think I would prefer the right to be lazy.
February 27, 2014 at 12:54 am #100206alanjjohnstoneKeymasterhttp://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/feb/08/george-orwell-such-such-schooldaysHere is a good piece on Old EtonianS' mindset. "…I attribute to my education not only an uncountable number of advantages and privileges, but some of the characteristics I find least attractive in myself. I have a craven teacher-pleasing tendency: a deference to authority and a desire to excel within parameters established by others rather than to challenge those parameters. I am a more conventional – sometimes timid – thinker than I would like."… He also conveniently reminds us of all the "public school socialists"
March 1, 2014 at 3:06 pm #100207james19ParticipantWorkers' party, in a classless.society? April 1?
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