We are all African apes. Nationalism is nonsense.

[Thomas_More]

The Amish deal with recalcitrants by shunning them. Most apologise and return after a while.

[ErikTheRed]

@Thomas More

Socialism, unlike capitalism, will leave people alone. Only if people commit violence and harm others will restraint be necessary. I stress, NOT punishment, simply restraint.

Socialism will revel in diversity and celebrate difference.

I can take it then that socialism will allow ethnic and racial differences to continue, if people choose this? Do you also accept that new ethnic groups will arise, as some will choose to mix, and where this follows social patterns, groups will emerge and develop distinctive cultures and identities that they may want to preserve?

[ErikTheRed]

@MovimientoSocialista:

In this case forced means that they have to accept the decision of the majority. It is just semantic. That is what Kautsky said: Democracy will be the power of the majority and the respect of the minority

Does this mean that, in socialism, if a majority make a decision against your interests, you must still obey?

• This reply was modified 2 years ago by ErikTheRed.

[Thomas_More]

The only decision of that kind is the first one: the expropriation of the capitalists, upon which they cease to be capitalists and we all cease to be workers.
After that, what possible decisions are you thinking of?

[Thomas_More]

“I can take it then that socialism will allow ethnic and racial differences to continue, if people choose this? Do you also accept that new ethnic groups will arise, as some will choose to mix, and where this follows social patterns, groups will emerge and develop distinctive cultures and identities that they may want to preserve?”

I don’t see why not. You can dress like an ancient Roman if you want, or like Robin Hood.

And the more ethnicities mix, the better.

• This reply was modified 2 years ago by Thomas_More.

[Thomas_More]

Racism

[ErikTheRed]

I am a fan of Kautsky, as it happens, and (perhaps under his subconscious influence), I have developed some Kautskian semantics of my own.

[ErikTheRed]

I have started two new threads to discuss the issues I wish to raise.

[Thomas_More]

I see socialism working regionally for most things, and globally only for things requiring the attention of all.

[alanjjohnstone]

[ALB]

How are we supposed to know what this is about or whether it’s worth watching if there’s no introductory comment? Is he a comedian or a professor of anthropology or maybe an advocate or critic of “national anarchism”?

[alanjjohnstone]

I thought Ian Hislop and a one-minute clip from BBC’S Have I Got News for You didn’t require an introduction.

BTW, Hislop’s father is Scottish, his mother, a Channel Islander and he spent much of his childhood following his ex-pat father around the world.

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