Venezuela
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February 17, 2019 at 2:13 pm #183590alanjjohnstoneKeymaster
Russian lender Gazprombank has decided to freeze the accounts of Venezuelan state oil company PDVSA and halted transactions with the firm to reduce the risk of the bank falling under U.S. sanctions.
The bank has held PDVSA accounts for several years. In 2013, PDVSA said it signed a deal with Gazprombank for $1 billion in financing for the Petrozamora company. The source said that Petrozamora accounts were frozen, too.
PDVSA was telling customers of its joint ventures to deposit oil sales proceeds in its Gazprombank accounts, according to sources and an internal document, in a move to try to sideline fresh U.S. sanctions on PDVSA.
Russian firms find themselves in a quandary, caught between a desire to endorse the Kremlin line and back Maduro, and the fear that by doing so they could expose themselves to secondary U.S. sanctions which would harm their businesses.
February 17, 2019 at 8:18 pm #183591AnonymousInactiveUS backyard is getting very tense, the Haitians went to the streets asking for the removal of the us backed president and asking for a Russian intervention.
It is an opposite situation to the one taking place in Venezuela
I wonder what would happen if the Venezuelan government invite the Russians like it was done by Assad in Syria
February 18, 2019 at 1:16 am #183594AnonymousInactiveMany geological researches have proven that Haiti has an enormous amount of oil probably three times larger than Venezuela, The USA knows about the existence of oil in the whole Caribbean basin, and they want to keep those reserves for strategic reserve purposes, and they do not want another economic empire like China to take over the oil of Haiti, and any govermernt with certain nationalist purpose is going to be overthrown. Besides oil Haiti has gold, diamond, uranium and gas.
February 18, 2019 at 5:26 pm #183603alanjjohnstoneKeymasterA Haiti coup? A private army?
February 18, 2019 at 6:26 pm #183605AnonymousInactiveI wouldn’t doubt it Haití is a boiling pot at the present time and anything can happen The oil reserve of Haiti are three times bigger than Venezuela All the major Antilles have petroleum
The us press wouldn’t mentioned it either, theirs journalists are cardboard readers only
They are too busy looking for Islamic terrorists in the Mexican border , that is the new smoking gun to generate fear
MS13 ( Salvatruchas) which are a product of the Los Angeles poverty and the war in Central American are not coming thru the border that is just another lie
Many are born USA citizens some were deported and are prisoners in El Salvador and Honduras, the chaos in both countries was produced by the USA and the rulers of both countries
February 18, 2019 at 11:47 pm #183608alanjjohnstoneKeymasterAnother article on a compliant media’s complicity with the anti-Venezuelan government activities of the USA
MSNBC – “…a 5-five minute segment by anchor Chris Hayes could be described as critical of regime change, he reported, and “these were the only five of the cable channel’s 30,240 on-air minutes since Trump’s coup was launched three weeks ago that were dedicated to criticizing it, and these did so only mildly…”
CNN – “If the U.S. had a major state TV network it would sound exactly like this. 100% pure, uncritical cheerleading.”
February 19, 2019 at 2:00 pm #183622AnonymousInactiveThe US news media, is like the old Pravda, or Moscow radio splitted into different private ownership. You can combine all of them into one outlet and you will get the same point of view. Sometimes the Washigton Post is called a communist newspaper and the owner is one of the richest man that exists around the world, the New York Times have always supported US wars and incursion in others countries affair and it is called a leftist newspaper. They want to divide the US society into Leftist and conservative instead of capitalists and workers. It is a very uncritical society
PS The owner of the Washington Post made billions of dollars in surplus value and he didnt pay a cent in taxation
February 19, 2019 at 5:24 pm #183625alanjjohnstoneKeymasterPink Floyd’s Roger Waters
“It has nothing to do with humanitarian aid at all. It has to do with Richard Branson having bought the US saying, ‘We have decided to take over Venezuela, for whatever our reasons may be.’…Do we really want Venezuela to turn in to another Iraq or Syria or Libya? I don’t and neither do the Venezuelan people,” Waters wrote.
February 19, 2019 at 10:23 pm #183630AnonymousInactive- Profit is always first. Before the war in Iraq millions of peoples went to the streets to protest and the war was launched. If the rulers of the USA think that this confrontation with other capitalists is profitable they will launch a war against Venezuela. I don’t think they want the Chinese, Iranian and Russian capitalists to take the oil and the mineral. India is also entering in the grabbing of resources they already challenged USA oil embargo
February 19, 2019 at 11:17 pm #183634alanjjohnstoneKeymasterYou rightly raised a comparison with Haiti. Here is an article you will find interesting
“…In the midst of the economic war against it, Venezuela has not been able to provide Haiti with subsidized fuel. Haiti’s people had to now go to the U.S. oil companies and pay U.S. prices for fuel. This has created bottlenecks in the supply of fuel and frustration at the rising prices. Novum Energy—of the United States—kept ships sitting in Port-au-Prince harbor, waiting for the cash-strapped Haitian government to pay up before unloading 164,000 barrels of petrol and 205,000 barrels of kerosene. There is no solidarity pricing here (in fact, Haiti has to pay $20,000 per day to each ship that is sitting in the harbor as a penalty). These firms want cash, and they want full price….”
February 20, 2019 at 4:57 am #183644AnonymousInactiveVenezuela is planning to sell all their oil to the Asian market including India and they are looking for ways to avoid the USA banking system to obtain payment probably by using a different currency instead of dollars or exchanging it for commodities such as foods and medications
February 21, 2019 at 5:50 pm #183664AnonymousInactiveDuring the government of Salvador Allende in Chile. A chilean mining worker asked: If the Nickel belongs to the Chilean, can I take a piece to my house ? His question was never answered to him, on the contrary during a workers strike Salvador Allende ordered the troops to be sent to the strike. The same question can be asked by the Venezuelan workers, since the government is saying the that oil belongs to the Venezuelan workers, but nobody can take a gallon free to their home.
This is a dispute between rulers and ruling class on both side of the conflict, , and all the world capitalists power are after the oil including the ruling class of India. The Russians hold half of ownership of Gitco USA used as a collateral for an international loan, and China provided a loan to be paid with oil shipment, and India is planning to buy oil in exchange for medications and others commodities. The USA has discovered oil in the whole Caribbean basin and they want to keep for military strategic purpose . They have a military fleet patrolling the whole area.
In a free world access society we don’t have to ask the same question because we would know that everything belongs to mankind, and we would need a leader to tell ask that he has given anything to us
February 21, 2019 at 10:29 pm #183667alanjjohnstoneKeymasterYour comment reminded me of a story once told of Baron Rothschild, Marcos
He was out walking and was recognized by two workers who accosted him and said it was not fair that one man should have all that wealth and it should be shared out equally. Without hesitation Rothschild pulled out his purse
“I possess 50 million marks and there are 50 million in the country, so good sirs, accept one mark each as your individual share of my riches”
He gave them the money and walked away leaving the two workers somewhat confused.
Probably not true but it is a capitalist story that we socialists can use against the concept of re-distribution of wealth rather than expropriation of the means of production
February 21, 2019 at 11:35 pm #183670AnonymousInactiveCorrection to 183667. We wouldn’t need a leader to tell us that he has given anything to us, because it is going to be a leaderless society. Another evidence that the so called concept of the so called socialist leaders, and commanders of socialist revolution is totally wrong.
PS There are too many stories about Rothschild including one that he gave money to Karl Marx to write Capital, and that he gave money to Lenin to start the Russian revolution. The new kid in the block is Soros, everything that takes place in this world is organized by Soros including the caravan of the Central Americans
February 24, 2019 at 10:30 pm #183757alanjjohnstoneKeymasterI cannot help but make comparisons with the media’s coverage of America’s aid to Venezuela and the attempts to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza, when it intercepted flotillas of aid ships (for full disclosure, I know one participant personally as she was a co-worker. She was on two of the attempts and who was arrested twice, three times if you include a West Bank arrest for monitoring Israeli anti-protest tactics), killing a number of the volunteers and also turning away a truck convoy by George Galloway at its land-border. While the US offers aid to Venezuela it is in a process of cutting aid to Gaza for political reasons.
It appears when the USA does it, then it is justified peaceful humanitarianism but when others do, it is a PR scheme by war-mongers.
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