Types of materialism

[LBird]

I think that anyone interested in this debate about Marx’s epistemological views, will find the article at this link very informative:

“Marx’s epistemology and the problem of conflated idealisms”

https://philarchive.org/archive/CASMEA-2

[ALB]

That’s good, TM. So you are a dialectical materialist after all. A poet who didn’t know it. Welcome.

[Thomas_More]

A ruba’i (plural: rubaiyat)

He was a poet who didn’t know it,
A materialist not quite with it,
Reliant on the old rather than new,
and to some an argumentative git.

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[Lew]

LBird wrote:

I think that anyone interested in this debate about Marx’s epistemological views, will find the article at this link very informative:

“Marx’s epistemology and the problem of conflated idealisms”

https://philarchive.org/archive/CASMEA-2

It is to be noted that in what purports to be an analysis of Marx’s theory of knowledge there is only one citation from Marx, a fleeting reference to “uncritical idealism”. The article is based on what the author, and various other commentators, thought Marx meant. Regular readers of this forum, and LBird’s regular pronouncement on this topic, will recognise the methodology.

[Thomas_More]

Some very funny bits in here:

[Anonymous]

https://mailstrom.blogspot.com/2007/04/joseph-dietzgen-workers-philosopher.html

In other discussions we have cited Dietzgen. He is the real founder of the concept of dialectical materialism, it was not George Plekhanov

[Anonymous]

Richard Dawkins, and Neil DeGrase Tyson are atheists but they support capitalism and bourgeois liberalism. Marx indicated that the critique to the economic system is the critique of religion and the critique of religion is the critique of the economic system

[Thomas_More]

Yes. I have left a comment on that.
Party members should leave comments. Even if Dawkins doesn’t see them, others watching the video(s) will.

[Anonymous]

Yes. I have left a comment on that.
Party members should leave comments. Even if Dawkins doesn’t see them, others watching the video(s) will.

Our pamphlet: Socialism and religion describes this type of atheist, and they do not understand that religion had a materialistic origin and some of them are part of an economic system

Socialism and Religion

PS: There is a Spanish version of this wonderful pamphlet written by the Socialist Party

[Thomas_More]

I know. Tell it them then.

I wrote to Carl Sagan in 1988 about socialism. He didn’t reply, but I wrote, and I think it’s important to do so.

And what Dawkins should be looking at, rather than at the stupidity of creationists, is WHY are people still choosing such paths.

[ALB]

Here’s something relevant on 19th century German materialism, giving some context to the intellectual world that Marx and Engels (and Dietzgen} moved in:

https://www.3-16am.co.uk/articles/on-german-materialism

This too is interesting showing that science confirms that the brain works to filter and interpret what the senses perceive (in this case, the eye):

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/about-thinking/202202/what-everyone-needs-understand-about-human-vision?amp

It doesn’t make sense to call this “idealist” as it sees the brain and mind as part of material reality, not something separate from and outside it.

[Thomas_More]

No, it isn’t idealist.

[ALB]

Tell that to the author of that article that accuses Marx of “epistemological idealism”.

[Thomas_More]

Tribal people are shown Carl Sagan video.

And yet in the US and UK, where we have all this technology, we are plagued with oafs!

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[Thomas_More]

Gibbon on Christianity.

In his monumental work, Edward Gibbon, in his chapters on Christianity, has to pay lip-service to the “truth” of the mythology, yet his brilliant sarcasm throughout, but thinly veiled, makes reading him a real pleasure.

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