Trump as president again?
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January 9, 2025 at 6:49 pm #256114
ALB
KeymasterBetween the last two world wars both America and Canada drew up to invade each other (the Canadian militarists must have been bonkers).
https://macleans.ca/culture/books/how-canada-planned-to-invade-the-u-s-and-vice-versa/
January 10, 2025 at 3:12 am #256119Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantWhatever Trump is trying to do now, it has been tried by others presidents, it is nothing new, it is new for the new generation who hates libraries and bookstores, everything has been written and documented, trying to invade Canada or England is nothing abnormal, and both sides have tried to invade each others like normal capitalist expansion.
Before WW 2 the real enemy of the USA was England and Canada and they had war plans to attack and invade both countries, and the allied in that time was Nazis Germany, and several USC corporation were making a lot of profits with German state capitalism, even more, Roosevelt said that a system like that should have been tried in the USA, and then they became anti fascist like the Soviets who wanted to become part of the Axis groups and then they became anti fascist too
Isolation and intervention has been practiced in the USA before the foundation as a capitalist republic during 1776, before that, George Washington wanted to invade Haiti, and he was a slave holder like all the other so called founding fathers who have been canonized. The USA president is an English with a congress .
The same tactic used to create Texas was the same tactic used to create Panama which was part of the Great Colombian, and the main objective was to build the Panama Canal and to create a military catapult in the region, which is the same as Israel in the middle east.
Several invasions to other latin American countries have been launched from Panama, and the school of americas to train criminals, tortures and dictators was located in Panama and some like Noriega were in the payroll of the CIA
Since 1876 the US government and its capitalist class have tried to purchase Greenland, as they did with Alaska but the proposed purchase was rejected about three times, and after the WW 2 occupation they tried to purchase it again but it was rejected and they left a military base, wherever they build a military base they never leave like in Germany and Japan, and then the nationalist are shouting about US nationalism and USA first,( including Joe Biden ) the whole nation was build on the concept of expansionism covered with a romantic notion of freedom and democracy.
Donald Trump is not a new kid on the block, he is just repeating the same rethoric used by other imperialist presidents, probably, he is a Boy Scout compared with the prior ones including Jimmy Carter who paved the way for Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, George Bush and Barrak Obama.
John F Kennedy asked several dictators to resign, or to be killed or to be invaded, therefore, both political parties have practiced the same rethoric of isolation ( Nationalism ) and intervention ( imperialism or expansionism ) in latin America they are still carrying over the Monroe doctrine, the only thing that the left wingers are claiming is that Trump is a fascists which is the same old claim of the stalinists but they do not remember when Stalin was an allied of the Nazis and he wanted to expand the
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January 10, 2025 at 3:23 am #256121Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantIncidentally, I would also consider the Second Indochina War a strategic rather than a military defeat for the US. The US was and is a nuclear power after all, and General Westmoreland (appropriately named) even entertained the idea of employing nuclear weapons to “save” the Saigon regime. The US did indeed lose around 58,000 American troops—which paled in comparison to the millions of deaths inflicted by the US on the Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Laotions—but it was really the anti-war movement in the US and elsewhere that was among the decisive factors in helping to end the war. The US also never directly invaded the North due to fears of a Soviet or Chinese retaliation, so the US mostly just bombed them instead, in addition to carrying out various special operations.
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The USA also considered to drop atomic bombs on russia but the proposal was rejected
There has never been any real anti war movement, the so called anti war was supporting the vietcong, the real anti movement was the SPGB which did not support either side, and at the present time there is not any anti war movement eitherThe atomic bombs dropped in Japan were two scientific experiments on human beings, the Japanese were already defeated
Death of soldiers does not mean anything, the soviet lost more than 25 millions peoples and they defeated the best German battalions during ww2 and they defeated the best Japanese battalion in Manchuria.
The so called communist movement has never existed, on the contrary they have prolonged the existence of the capitalist society
January 10, 2025 at 4:45 am #256122Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantPetro government in Colombia confronts lawfare, Alvaro Uribe’s return, and U.S. intervention
Another palace coup that Donald Trump might inherit which has been initiated by prior presidents. A right wing coup in Colombia.
January 10, 2025 at 12:07 pm #256124ZJW
ParticipantHere is a short video by Trump Jr during his visit to Greenland. Greenlanders’ heartfelt pleading to be bought and be free at last from Danish exploitation:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/113801152970385739
(I wonder if such masters as Riefenstahl or Eisenstein could have outdone it).
And here are two online Greenland media you can read through Google Translate. Click link and the Danish will be English.
https://www-knr-gl.translate.goog/da?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
https://www-sermitsiaq-ag.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
Greenlandic Broadcasting Corporation (the first link) actually has more content in Greenlandic than Danish, but Google does a much worse job of translating it.
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January 10, 2025 at 1:30 pm #256128ZJW
ParticipantA couple of questions I’d like Trump’s lackey media (which takes it seriously) ask:
(Fox News or Newsmax reporter:)
1) Sir, what kind of status do you envision for Greenland once it has joined the US? Is it to be a state; or like Puerto Rico; or like American Samoa?
[edit:] Or a domestic dependent nation, that is, an Indian reservation?
2) Mr President, you have spoken of the ‘state of Canada’. Canada as it is now has ten states, which they call ‘provinces’, and three territories. All of them are represented in Canada’s ‘parliament’, which is their word for Congress. Sir, what I’m asking is why would Canada be just be one single state?
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January 10, 2025 at 1:36 pm #256130ZJW
ParticipantI’ve not seen a poll for Greenland, but here’s one for Canada:
Not as broken down as I’d like but Alberta is the most ‘yes’ (19%); and Canada-wide, men are more yes (19%) than women (7%) .
https://leger360.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Report-OMNI-CAN-16811-123-51st-state.pdf
If only Alberta ‘white males’ under age 55, or under 35, were polled, I wonder if the ‘yes’ might not be as high as c 40%.
January 10, 2025 at 1:54 pm #256132ALB
KeymasterIf done properly the USA would not be able to digest Canada. If each province became a state (with Newfoundland as the 61st state) then the Senate would be increased by another 20 Senators. The Electoral College would also be increased.
Since, generally speaking, Canada is more European and civilised than the US Trump should be careful about what he wishes. If Canada had already been part of the USA he would never have been elected President.
January 10, 2025 at 3:10 pm #256135Thomas_More
ParticipantSo all this is serious, then? The US will take Greenland and wants Canada?
It isn’t just a bad joke?January 10, 2025 at 4:53 pm #256142Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantMost Canadians workers ( English or French speaking ) are more politically advanced and have more working class consciousness than 99% of the American ( US ) workers. The Marxist Leninist Party of Canada had a daily newspaper that was sold at every news stand in the streets, situation like that has not taken place in the USA, for the Canadian the expression socialism/communism is not a diabolical expression like in the USA
If the USA is able to annex Canada probably presidents like Trump and Joe Biden will never be elected. They will never be able to annex Latin America because, the ruling class is more anti yankis than the Canadian ruling class and most peoples will reject it too and they might elect a left-winger
The USA border does not stop in Mexico, it goes all they way down to the South and in order to pacify the peoples of the region they have had to impose several brutal dictatorships and several peoples revolts had to be repressed with invasions, and the situation now is totally different too after the emerge of Hugo Chavez
Puerto Rico is a territory of the US and in the last election a left wing coalition was formed and it obtained a second stand in the past election, and peoples are more open to progressive conceptions.
If the USA invade Panama again ,or Venezuela, they are going to open a Pandora box and the USA army is not trained to carry a war in the jungles with left wings guerrillas groups, and the peoples might incline toward China or Russia and they are going to lose a big international market. They sent 50,000 soldiers to the Caribbeans to fight against the workers from the poor neighborhood ( they were called communists ) and they had to negotiate with them, and they did not have modern weapons, the situation now is different
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January 10, 2025 at 4:53 pm #256143Thomas_More
ParticipantLet’s not join those being taken in by fake news.
January 10, 2025 at 4:58 pm #256145Thomas_More
ParticipantJanuary 10, 2025 at 5:02 pm #256146Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantHere is a short video by Trump Jr during his visit to Greenland. Greenlanders’ heartfelt pleading to be bought and be free at last from Danish exploitation:
That asshole is more ignorant than his own father
January 10, 2025 at 5:22 pm #256147adri
ParticipantIt isn’t just a bad joke?
I again doubt Trump will make it past his first year in office, especially considering the two, rather serious, assassination attempts during his campaign; he’s a bit of an idiot (well I mean he’s an idiot anyway) for even trying to run for a second term, especially in the US where guns are easily accessible. While he might have won both the electoral college and popular votes, his stance on Palestine and virtually everything else makes him intensely disliked by large swathes of people. There were also a number of people who voted for Trump simply to spite the Democrats and their position on Palestine, mistakenly thinking that Trump was somehow less pro-Israeli when he was in fact the most pro-Israeli president in US history, excluding Biden’s current facilitation of ethnic cleansing. While voter turnout was also relatively high by American standards, there were still millions of people who didn’t vote at all. His electoral victory shouldn’t be seen as reflecting his actual popularity, especially when he was voted out of office in 2020. Openly announcing that he wants to annex this and that territory certainly hasn’t helped his case.
January 10, 2025 at 5:39 pm #256148adri
ParticipantJesusland.
Eh, I would really avoid making blanket statements about entire regions. It’s not much of an improvement if a state voted Democratic over Republican; they’re both the party of capital after all.
If you compare the 2024 electoral map with the “Jesusland” map they are also far from being identical.
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