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    alanjjohnstone
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    I thought i suffered a back to the future moment when i read this article by a group called Trotskyist Platform

    Title "Defend Socialistic China against Military Intimidation by Capitalist Powers

    Sub-title "Down with Capitalist Australia’s Military Build Up! U.S., Australian Militaries: Stay Out of the South China Sea!"

    Defend Socialistic China against Military Intimidation by Capitalist Powers

     

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    although capitalism has made big inroads into China, it has not taken over the country. China remains a socialistic state – a workers state however deformed it may be from the socialist “ideal.” …They rightly understand that the existence of the PRC workers state is a barrier to turning China into a huge sweatshop for unrestricted exploitation of cheap labour by Western corporations – as currently occurs in the likes of capitalist Philippines, Bangladesh or Indonesia…As the new capitalist rulers would be able to drastically drive down real wages in China, the capitalist bosses here would wield their access to this new, cheap labour source in China as a stick to beat down wages and the unions in Australia….That is why it is urgent that the workers movement and all genuine socialists in Australia stand for the defence of the the PRC workers state against all the pro-capitalist forces threatening it.  

    It sounds like some North Korean Maoist group rather that a trot party but i expect because of the innumerable numbers of different trotskyistss, they seek to carve out their little exclusive redoubt. 

    What planet are they on that they cannot see the reality of Foxconn et al, the exploitation of migrant workers in economic zones and the Chinese Communist Party  oligarchs taking their unearned share of the spoils?

    When i read it, i genuinely thought i drifted off into a time tunnel…

     

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    Anonymous
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    alanjjohnstone wrote:
    I thought i suffered a back to the future moment when i read this article by a group called Trotskyist PlatformTitle "Defend Socialistic China against Military Intimidation by Capitalist PowersSub-title "Down with Capitalist Australia’s Military Build Up! U.S., Australian Militaries: Stay Out of the South China Sea!"http://dissidentvoice.org/2016/08/defend-socialistic-china-against-military-intimidation-by-capitalist-powers/#more-63853 

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    although capitalism has made big inroads into China, it has not taken over the country. China remains a socialistic state – a workers state however deformed it may be from the socialist “ideal.” …They rightly understand that the existence of the PRC workers state is a barrier to turning China into a huge sweatshop for unrestricted exploitation of cheap labour by Western corporations – as currently occurs in the likes of capitalist Philippines, Bangladesh or Indonesia…As the new capitalist rulers would be able to drastically drive down real wages in China, the capitalist bosses here would wield their access to this new, cheap labour source in China as a stick to beat down wages and the unions in Australia….That is why it is urgent that the workers movement and all genuine socialists in Australia stand for the defence of the the PRC workers state against all the pro-capitalist forces threatening it.  

    It sounds like some North Korean Maoist group rather that a trot party but i expect because of the innumerable numbers of different trotskyistss, they seek to carve out their little exclusive redoubt. What planet are they on that they cannot see the reality of Foxconn et al, the exploitation of migrant workers in economic zones and the Chinese Communist Party  oligarchs taking their unearned share of the spoils?When i read it, i genuinely thought i drifted off into a time tunnel… 

     They are following the so called anti-imperialist theory invented by Vladimir Lenin http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1990s/1998/no-1128-august-1998/anti-imperialist-delusion

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    Anonymous
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    Mao Tse Tung created another absurd   anti-imperialist  theory know  as The three world theory https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-1a/red-dawn.htm

    #121619
    Anonymous
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    The Maoists and the Enverists ( Hoxhaists ) are joining forces again, like in the old days when Mao and Enver Hoxha were their leaders., they have placed all their differences ( if they had any ) under the carpet. It is not strange to see Trotskyite groups supporting Stalinist groups eitherThe Communist Party of Cuba ( Founded by Stalinists )  had a theoretician known as Celia Hart  who was a Trotskyite. The Leninists never learn,  it is like inserting water inside of a dry coconut.The highest rate of  workers' suicide takes place at the Foxcom factory, and many of the workers were sleeping in the premises of the factories, and they were employing  children and young peoples to do the work. None of those workers are able to own any Apple products.The Vietnam leadership has also served in a silver platter the workers to the Western investors, and they live in inhuman conditions, and they are allied of the US capitalists, and they have made joint military exercises PS Trotsky's wife Natalia Segovia took a much better stand than her husband, because she recognized that the soviet union was a state capitalist economy, and she was thrown out from the Fourth International

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