The Elizabeth Warren Thread
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March 25, 2019 at 12:19 am #184700alanjjohnstoneKeymaster
The Democratic presidential candidate Kirsten Gillibrand used a speech in front of a Trump hotel in New York on Sunday to call the president a “coward” who is “tearing apart the moral fabric of our country” and who “demonizes the vulnerable”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/24/kirsten-gillibrand-speech-trump-coward
March 25, 2019 at 1:14 am #184703alanjjohnstoneKeymasterContinuing the mis-defining of what socialism is
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/03/24/what-democatic-socialism-and-what-it-not
March 30, 2019 at 10:36 pm #184854AnonymousInactiveThe fight should be against capitalism instead of Trumpism
March 31, 2019 at 2:24 am #184863PartisanZParticipantContinuing the mis-defining of what socialism is
Hopefully correcting some of the misconceptions or at least giving food for thought.
https://commons.commondreams.org/t/what-democatic-socialism-is-and-what-it-is-not/61726/34
March 31, 2019 at 9:56 am #184873AnonymousInactive“Hopefully correcting some of the misconceptions or at least giving food for thought.”
Well done, comrades.
https://commons.commondreams.org/t/what-democatic-socialism-is-and-what-it-is-not/61726/11
https://commons.commondreams.org/t/what-democatic-socialism-is-and-what-it-is-not/61726/36
April 4, 2019 at 12:04 am #184930alanjjohnstoneKeymasterSign of trend?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/03/americas-socialist-surge-chicago
Three Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) members won their Chicago city council races in runoff elections on Tuesday. They will join two other socialists who won the first round of elections outright in February.
“…Chicago’s socialist victories last night weren’t a fluke. Throughout the country, people are tired of low wages, soaring housing costs, privatization of public goods, budget cuts and corporate giveaways of public money. They have tried austerity and found it miserable…”
Perhaps we can understand this partisan article when the author is editor of Jacobin, but there is a trace of truth in that radical reformists are once more on the rise.
Yet again it confirms that there is a increasingly receptive audience to reach out to and hope for a few our genuine socialist message will resonate.
April 4, 2019 at 12:52 am #184934alanjjohnstoneKeymasterSupport for Warren’s policy to break up the tech giants from the IMF?
April 4, 2019 at 1:59 am #184935alanjjohnstoneKeymasterThe new darling of the American liberals is Pete Buttigieg. But how different is he?
Buttigieg did not meet with AIPAC last week; but he is strongly pro-Israel.
A year ago he visited Israel and decided that Israel’s security arrangements were “moving” and “clear-eyed”, and that the U.S. could learn something from them, and blamed Palestinians and Hamas for the “misery” in Gaza. He also faulted fellow Democrats for making snap judgments based on “90-second cable news versions of what’s going on over there.”
His visit was at the behest of the Jewish Federations of Indiana and the American Jewish Committee’s Project Interchange.
April 4, 2019 at 4:18 am #184936AnonymousInactiveIf you read some commentaries you will see how confused many peoples are about the concept of socialism. They are talking about establishing socialism in one city only, it is worst than Nikolai Bukharin conception of socialism in one country
April 7, 2019 at 12:14 am #184972alanjjohnstoneKeymaster“…DSA members in Iowa, Elaine Godfrey, head of a Iowa chapter writes, don’t necessarily have an across-the-board view of exactly what “socialism” means—and “under the DSA umbrella,” she says, “one can expect to find all types of political philosophies, including Marxists, Leninists, communists and even libertarian socialists.”
But if all of these DSA members have something in common, according to Godfrey, it is that “socialism, to them, means a fairer world—one where every person is born with a guaranteed right to things like health care and education.”
Godfrey shows a contrast between Warren’s liberalism and DSA members. Warren is vehemently critical of crony capitalism and abuses in the banking sector but doesn’t consider capitalism itself to be the problem. And in contrast to Warren’s “capitalist to my bones” comment, Godfrey quotes Iowa-based DSA activist Rob Shaw as saying, without hesitation, “Fuck capitalism.”…”
April 9, 2019 at 12:40 am #185055alanjjohnstoneKeymasterA new entry
California Representative Eric Swalwell is officially in the running for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination.
April 15, 2019 at 11:35 am #185241alanjjohnstoneKeymasterThe Democratic Party Establishment shows its true colours.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi dismissed the “socialist” wing of Democrats in the House of Representatives as “like, five people”.
When it was l suggested “the progressive group is more than five,” Pelosi replied, “Well, the progressive…I’m a progressive.”
“By and large, whatever orientation they came to Congress with, they know that we have to hold the centre,” she said. “That we have to… go down the mainstream.”
“While there are people who have a large number of Twitter followers, what’s important is that we have large numbers of votes on the floor of the House,” Ms Pelosi said last week. (AOC has 4 million Twitter followers)
“Well the [Obama] Affordable Care Act is better than Medicare, there’s no question about that. The Affordable Care Act benefits are better. Medicare doesn’t have a catastrophic plan. So if you want Medicare for all, you’re going to have to change Medicare and let’s take a look at that.”
In an earlier interview, Pelosi also brushed off the idea Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal proposal.
“It will be one of several or maybe many suggestions that we receive,” Ms Pelosi said. “The green dream, or whatever they call it – nobody knows what it is, but they’re for it, right?”April 16, 2019 at 12:44 am #185298alanjjohnstoneKeymasterNever heard of the Overton Window?
This explains it.
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/04/15/aoc-smashes-overton-window
April 16, 2019 at 9:00 am #185309AnonymousInactive“Never heard of the Overton Window?”
Can’t quite remember the context but first came across the term some years ago.
According to James Overton, after whom the term is named, the window contains the range of policies that a politician (party?) can recommend without appearing too extreme to gain or keep public office in the current climate of public opinion.
April 16, 2019 at 9:01 am #185310ALBKeymasterSubheading to an editorial in today’s Times (of London, that is):
“Democrats seeking the presidency must do better than promise a workers’ paradise”
Is that what they’ve been doing.
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