Syria: will the West attack?
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Correction: 2 LibDems also voted against and, contrary to what I hinted at in a previous post, the Labour candidate in today's by-election in Oldham is not amongst the warmongers. At the last moment he came out against bombing Syria.
Another interesting map:Note how "State of Aleppo" covers most of what IS now holds; how 'Alwaite State' is more or less what the Syrian Government holds securely (with the addition of Damascus itself). Now, even these lines are likely to be arbitrary, but it does suggest that tehre is a 'constituency' which IS have managed to appeal. to.
In regards to the contesting claims about who is buying ISIS oil, the latest being Fallon alleging it is Syria and not Turkey, rekindled a vague memory of a few articles i read months ago that there was an informal agreement amongs the warring parties about preserving some important infrastructure they share such as the electric national grid. So i googled and came up with these. http://syrianobserver.com/EN/News/28834/Regime_ISIS_Agree_Share_Electricity_Aleppo_Countryside/http://acdemocracy.org/syria-isis-pragmatic-cooperation/http://www.4thmedia.org/2015/10/why-is-the-u-s-silently-bombing-syrias-electricity-network/As always the sources may have suspect motives but both were published before the current debate made the headlines which i think contributes to their validity.
Young Master Smeet wrote:Another interesting map:Note how "State of Aleppo" covers most of what IS now holds; how 'Alwaite State' is more or less what the Syrian Government holds securely (with the addition of Damascus itself). Now, even these lines are likely to be arbitrary, but it does suggest that tehre is a 'constituency' which IS have managed to appeal. to.Most of what the IS now holds does fit into the area of 1922 "State of Aleppo"(which seems to be exactly the same as the existing Syrian provinces of Idlib, Aleppo, Hama, Hasakah, Raqqa and Deir er-Zor), But they don't control either the North East part (Hasakah, which is controlled by the Kurdish nationalists and the government), nor Idlib (at the western end, which is controlled by other rebels), nor much of Aleppo or Hama (which is divided between other rebels and the government.Essentially, they control two big cities (over 200,000) on the Euphrates (Raqqa and Deir er-Zor, and not all of the latter). Out of Syria's population of 20 million they oppress only about 2 million or so; most of those they rule over, some 10 million, are in Iraq not Syria). Except for the two on the Euphrates, all of the other 10 largest cities in Syria are controlled by the government (including most of the city of Aleppo itself), i.e the government controls far more than the 1922 "Alawite State" and rules over some 80% of the population.The Sanjak of Alexandretta became part of Turkey in 1939..
A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eightiesby Oded YinonSyria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon, so that there will be a Shi’ite Alawi state along its coast, a Sunni state in the Aleppo area, another Sunni state in Damascus hostile to its northern neighbor, and the Druzes who will set up a state, maybe even in our Golan, and certainly in the Hauran and in northern Jordan. This state of affairs will be the guarantee for peace and security in the area in the long run, and that aim is already within our reach today.http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
The apple certainly fell well away from the tree in regards to the difference between Tony Benn and his son Hilary. (no surprise though since Hilary supported the Iraq Invasion)And now the granddaughter takes petty petulent offence at Alex Salmond reminding us how Tony Benn would be birling in his grave at the decision of Labour members to go to war again and many would claim based upon another bunch of lies such as an army of 70,000 'moderate' jihadists waiting in the wings to assume power now they have been provided with air-cover.And the media are now in full swing hailing Hilary Benn as the new Labour leader in waiting…imagine the future possibility ..two Hilarys in power.
For those who want to read Bomber Benn's supposedly brilliant speech, the full text is here.His peroration at the end begins:
Quote:And we are here faced by fascists. Not just their calculated brutality, but their belief that they are superior to every single one of us in this chamber tonight, and all of the people that we represent. They hold us in contempt. They hold our values in contempt. They hold our belief in tolerance and decency in contempt. They hold our democracy, the means by which we will make our decision tonight, in contempt. And what we know about fascists is that they need to be defeated.He was talking about IS but what he says applies equally to the Saudi regime. From where, afar all, IS's ideology comes from. But nobody's suggesting bombing their oil wells. They prefer to sell them bombers.
"Germany’s parliament has approved plans to provide military assistance in the fight against Isis militants, including reconnaissance jets and up to 1,200 support personnel. MPs voted on Friday 445 to 146 to approve the plan crafted by Angela Merkel’s cabinet this week following a pledge of greater support in the wake of the deadly attacks in Paris. Germany will send up to six Tornado reconnaissance planes and tanker aircraft, as well as a frigate to help protect the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle in the eastern Mediterranean, but will not actively engage in combat."I find it interesting that Germany seems to believe that a French aircraft carrier in the Mediterrean may be vulnerable to attack…by whom, one might ask…certainly not ISIS unless they have somehow acquired a navy and airforce.
Interesting article here confirming that ISIS are a gang of parasitic bandits living off the loot they extract from the people they oppress and exploit:http://en.alalam.ir/news/1766394Ok, this comes from the Iranian state media but, then, the UK non-state media is just as biased (without even being instructed to be)
ALB wrote:Interesting article here confirming that ISIS are a gang of parasitic bandits living off the loot they extract from the people they oppress and exploit:http://en.alalam.ir/news/1766394Ok, this comes from the Iranian state media but, then, the UK non-state media is just as biased (without even being instructed to be)Didn't Hitler and the Nazis do this with the jews?
"Russia’s Defense Ministry has slammed Washington’s reaction to the outing of the secret oil trade between Turkey and Islamic State terrorists, calling it a “theatre of the absurd” and saying it looks rather like “direct patronage.”RT
BBC Question Time AUDIENCE "Why are people in Syria collateral damage and people in Paris are victims? 'It is racism' On facebook some one has posted Innocent Syrian people, including woman and children are now being murdered by French, Russian, UK and US bombs but No one is using the Syrian flags on their avatar. WHY?? Are you all racists? You should all hold your head in shame
Lest we forget that we are in Syria fighting for the values of Western civilisation, along with our gallant allies and friends such as Saudi Arabia where in the coming days, a Sri Lankan woman is to be led to an outdoor pit in Saudi Arabia. Her arms and hands will be tightly bound, her body buried up to her breasts. Saudi men will then surround her and begin to hurl rocks at her head to kill her slowly. In comparison, ISIS beheadings can be seen as "compassionate and merciful".The housemaid’s surely did not receive a fair trial. The legal cost to plead her case—10,000 riyal, or about $2,600—roughly amounts to the average yearly salary of a foreign worker in Saudi Arabia. It’s unlikely, therefore, that she had the money necessary to receive adequate legal guidance during her trial. It’s also doubtful that she fully understood the Arabic language. Or Islamic law. Or the gravity of the sexual charges that were brought against her. Not even her family knows about her death sentence. The stoning of this lowly, nameless housemaid will stand as a symbol of our world’s moral failing. Given the indifference of the Western governments , the silence of the United Nations, and the cruelty of the Saudi Arabian theocracy, only pressure from the media might now help. Sri Lanka is dependent for $2.5 billion in remittances from Sri Lankan domestic workers and a small, predominantly Buddhist island, has little influence on the legal decisions of the wealthy Muslim kingdom. So far the world’s response has been shameful. We won't hear Cameron denouncing his "friends" or pleading for clemency for her. http://wearechange.org/saudi-arabia-is-about-to-stone-a-sri-lankan-woman-to-death/
The French, UK and US governments were murdering and looting and living on stolen goods from gangster-like gangs long before ISIS appeared on the scene
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